lucidChthonia
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Post by lucidChthonia on Jun 21, 2012 16:47:11 GMT -5
Okay, just going to point out, I have killed other players while on berserk triggers and/or high on corruption at points. Several others. There's not a day it doesn't eat me up from the inside.
I don't want to be listed as forever requiring handling with kid gloves and observation from five thousand feet away. It would be disrespectful, but more to the point, it wouldn't actually prevent anything, because I am not the kind of person who would do it deliberately.
If you'd like to start a second list for "people liable to PK while on berserk triggers or corruption", feel free, just be aware that the entire population of the Mind subforum is probably already on that kind of list. They don't need to have their lives ruined by being here, too.
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zephyrIce
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Post by zephyrIce on Jun 21, 2012 16:52:51 GMT -5
The primary factor is the intent. If a player intended to kill someone, or knowingly placed them in harms way or knowingly neglected to help them in any way, they count as a PK. Revival and sticking you on your Quest Bed generally count as helping, unless they killed you just to force you to get tiger. Then we're back to "intended to kill".
If they were on a Beserk Trigger or Corrupted or otherwise mentally compromised, they are not a PK, just a player with some really shitty luck.
So the best way to figure if someone is a PK is to ask "Did they do this with the intent of someone dying?" or "Did they knowingly ignore someone who was about to die?"
(And letting someone go Corrupt, for the record, is just as bad if not worse than killing/allowing someone to die)
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Post by apianAnchorite on Jun 21, 2012 16:55:45 GMT -5
But what if they killed a PK on a rampage? For instance. Or, like, someone who had done something else unforgivable? I don't mean to make things confusing, and possibly this isn't the place for this, but I'm just wondering how it's supposed to work. Is all.
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zephyrIce
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Post by zephyrIce on Jun 21, 2012 17:01:31 GMT -5
I totally let self-defense out of that, didn't I. If you're defending yourself or your fellow players from someone who's going around killing people, you're not a PK. You're just a person trying to live another day. I'm in this boat myself, I had to kill one of the players in my first session after he killed three of our other players and went after me.
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Post by musicalDecay on Jun 21, 2012 17:29:43 GMT -5
casualUcalegon, If you really think the name deserves to be on the list. put it on. if you're thinking about putting someone the list but are uncertain. ask someone first.
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Post by casualUcalegon on Jun 21, 2012 18:37:51 GMT -5
I've been asking, is the thing. No one's been answering even thoUgh I laid oUt the circUmstances a coUple pages ago.
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Post by repentantPrimogen on Jun 21, 2012 19:53:57 GMT -5
it was an attempt to uphold Order
therefore this does not varrant a place on PK list
Casual One, I am sure your query was already answered by someone
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Post by ExtropianDreamer on Jun 21, 2012 20:45:14 GMT -5
I've been asking, is the thing. No one's been answering even thoUgh I laid oUt the circUmstances a coUple pages ago. It's a borderline case.
Having read your logs and everything, I'd be inclined to say 'yes, put them down as a potential PK'.
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Post by musicalDecay on Jun 21, 2012 21:20:24 GMT -5
the global moderator has spoken. It is now down hopefully.
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Post by tungstenTinkerer on Jun 22, 2012 4:36:02 GMT -5
As a confirmation from the staff. ZI got it just right, the main difference is intent. If you intentionally killed someone, with the exact purpose of getting rid of them (as opposed to tiering, for example), not in self defense, and while in full possession of your mental faculties (so usually no BTs or corruption) then you are going to be on the list.
If you want a "people liable to PK while on berserk triggers or corruption" list you can look here.
I would also like to point out that this is not the place for that kind of discussion. This post is only supposed to house a list of all known PKs. There's an entire section dedicated to PKs so if you want a single case evaluated (or re-evaluated) or ask for how the section works, please open a separate thread, so that the info is more easily accessible to everyone and this important thread is not clogged with OT. The only posts here should be about asking for people to be on the list in cases that either need no further analysis or were already evaluated by a mod somewhere else.
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Post by stanzicApparati on Jun 27, 2012 3:51:02 GMT -5
[RAngoon wArning] GIven tHat fIve mEs hAve sHown uP dOomed (aNd vEry qUickly dEad) bEcause sHe lOst hEr sHit, I aM sUbmitting oUr BAne oF HOpe, aZurePAnoply, tO tHe lIst. FUture-mE aSsures mE tHat tHere iS a fIx bUt hEr aNswer dEcrypts tO, bAsically, "dIamond mIracles uP tHe wAzOo" wHich dOesn't sOund lIke sOmething tHat wIll sTick iF wHoever hEr mOirail iS dOesn't eNd uP a cO-pLayer iN hEr nExt sEssion, aSsuming tHat wE eVen sUrvive tHis cUll-fEst.
I hAve nO cLue iF sHe iS a "ROsemary" fAngirl, bUt I aM pRetty sUre tHat sHe hAs a bAd cAse oF mEgalovania, bEcause sHe kEeps cOmplaining tHat iT iSn't cHallenging eNough fOr uS. APparently 'mOre cHallenging' tRanslates tO sOmething lIke 'kIll aNywhere fRom hAlf tHe pLayers tO aLl tHe oTher pLayers sO sHe cAn sOlo tHe kIng'.
SHe's a cErulean tRoll, nO uNusual pOwers fOr hEr cAste. USes dIcekind aNd wEars aN eYepatch.
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Post by tungstenTinkerer on Jun 27, 2012 9:07:14 GMT -5
It would be a good idea to send someone (possibly someone expendable i.e. a doomed self) to tell her what's the deal with azurites and tell her to change her handle to avoid false alarms. If she refuses to do so, then she is probably an actual azurite and... Well, I advise to have someone (someone who can overpower her in case shit happens, possibly) keep an eye on her at all time. No reason to let a suspected PC run unchecked waiting to rampage around.
That said, for now she is already in the list under the azure[Anything] tag so no need to add confusion to the list. Thanks for the notice though.
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Post by stanzicApparati on Jul 7, 2012 2:00:28 GMT -5
I am adding astralLepidoptera to the list. She has been a Space player four times, not counting her current session with spacetimeCounselor. She is currently the Witch of Space in his session.
She has had three co-players die in previous sessions and denies responsibility for any of their deaths.
She also appears to have a terrible case of Umbral Ultimatum and seems to be suffering from the delusion that speed-running will increase the odds of escaping the game.
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Post by wavebreakGladiator on Jul 7, 2012 9:28:53 GMT -5
Welp so I guess I should probbly pop this in here but uh. indigo troll with the handle cullingNovitiate probbly should be on that list. I mean she chilled the fuck out some by the end of our session but it don really change the fact she force tiered everybody. She'll be a creepy bitch and make vague threats but ya really only gotta worry if she starts offering to help. Never accept her offer unless ya asked first, specially if ya haven't got the tiger yet But uh I think if she does start insistin on helpin or somethin Just tell her her kismet-sis (use that word. that exact word hyphen an all. she'll know who you mean)said she ain't gonna put up with her givin other folks her special kinda help. And maybe point her my way. Chick's kind of obsessed with making that quadrant work out so any insinuation she might fuck it up will probably get her to stand down.
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reflectiveAdvisor
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Post by reflectiveAdvisor on Aug 23, 2012 20:46:11 GMT -5
I... I would like to ask that the seadweller troll surfaceSilver is added to this list. Here... Here is relevant proof, or at least justification for further inquiry.
-- partecipants: CURRENT reflectiveAdvisor [CRA], CURRENT tungstenPaper [CTP], FUTURE majesticInstability [FMI] -- CTP: I'm just @ tealblood, like Wesrin w@s just @ yellowblood. CRA: Why... Why do you say "just"? FMI: There is so much more to you than blood CTP: He disrespected her e@rly on. CTP: She killed him. CRA: What... What did he do exactly? FMI: I rather doubt the memories she has now will make her so happy to repeat such an action CRA: To... To "earn" death? CTP: He w@s /my/ yellowblood, you underst@nd? CTP: But she's @qu@tic. She h@d @ bigger cl@im. CRA: Why... Why? CTP: He l@ughed @t her when @ pl@n went wrong. He should h@ve known better. CRA: What... What's her tag, then? FMI: surfaceSilver, was it not? CTP: Ye@h
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