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Nov 18, 2012 21:04:24 GMT -5
Post by cannonOverload on Nov 18, 2012 21:04:24 GMT -5
WHEN IT COMES TO PROTOTYPING, YOU MUST CONSIDER HOW SBURB COULD TURN IT AGAINST YOU, IN THE CASE OF VIDEO GAMES; THROUGH CHARACTERS, ITEMS, OR GAME MECHANICS.
FALLOUT 3 COULD GIVE YOU DEATHCLAW ENEMIES, YES, BUT IT COULD ALSO MAKE ALL ENEMIES EMIT FUCK-TONS OF RADIATION INSTEAD, OR SOMETIMES EXPLODE LIKE A MINI-NUKE WHEN THEY DIE. LUCKILY, CRYSTALANTHEMUMS WILL CURE RADIATION POISONING QUITE QUICKLY, AND RADIATION ONLY STAYS FOR A FEW MINUTES BEFORE DISSIPATING IN THE MEDIUM.
WITCH PROTOTYPING IS... UNUSUAL, TO SAY THE LEAST. WITCH'S WILL ALWAYS PROTOTYPE SOMETHING THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY STRENGTHEN THE ENEMIES IN SOME WAY, NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY NOT TO DO SO. THE GAME WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.
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Nov 19, 2012 13:22:46 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 19, 2012 13:22:46 GMT -5
So if I were to throw in, for example, Final Fantasy V, I might be able to find healing items inside random treasure chests in random areas, and enemies will be more liable of dropping items and money, but at the same time, they'll have access to abilities, be stronger overall, and I'll probably have to deal with Black King Exdeath?
Okay, so, that throws out any RPG game, any Adventure game, Indiana Jones movies(Random boulder traps! Hellish dungeons and ruins!), the Harry Potter series(Ugh, Derse Lord Voldemort), the Dresden Files series, and basically anything of note in my room. I would throw in Toy Story, but that would run the risk of my brother's... 'dolls' coming to life, and that- just- No. Just no.
I'll just throw in a road map or a globe or something useless I don't need.
Next up: How can I convince my friends that we are about to trigger Armageddon and enter the hell known as Sburb?
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Nov 19, 2012 14:17:40 GMT -5
Post by bombasticGrasshopper on Nov 19, 2012 14:17:40 GMT -5
In my experience, it is very hard to predict how Sburb will interpret any given prototype. Throwing in FFV might make all the enemies Kefka-themed (in which case you'd be screwed, because clowns are glitched), or espers, or you might throw in the Playstation version and end up with enemies made of razor-sharp broken video game discs. One of my co-players prototyped a massive Lord of the Rings anthology, and it just made Book Underlings.
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tenebraMagistra
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Nov 19, 2012 14:26:24 GMT -5
Post by tenebraMagistra on Nov 19, 2012 14:26:24 GMT -5
Or, in my case, throw in a vampire novel(Not Twilight) and end up with fanged imps with red eyes that have an intense craving for blood.
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Nov 19, 2012 16:29:04 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 19, 2012 16:29:04 GMT -5
Eh, when it comes to the stuff about not knowing about what you were a royal of before you went in, don't worry. The queen headpatted you. That means she thinks you're adorable! You showed concern for a land which you don't actually have the right to inherit, treating it like it's your home. Even if it was a naive gesture, you spoke from the heart, and that can go a long way with prospit.
And I guess you probably aren't connected to that land if it came before you woke up. Still...
This is weird.
There are a lot of space players who wake up on prospit long before the game starts, but from the sound of it that doesn't really apply to you because it isn't really that long. There are just too many possibilities.
I know you want to get prepared in advance, but really, what can you do?
Another thing to keep in mind about prototyping is that what you prototype does affect your sprite, which is going to be an important source of battle support in the early game, and session-specific information we have no way of helping you with. The pattern I've had a lot of luck with was tier-1 prototyping with something that had clear strengths and weaknesses that I could exploit, then tier-2 prototyping after I entered the medium with something I had strong affinity with, like the ashes of a dead relative or a favorite action figure.
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Nov 19, 2012 16:35:38 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 19, 2012 16:35:38 GMT -5
So either I could wind up with aspects of the prototyped object popping up, or I get variations of the prototyped object popping up?
Also, if you have vampire monsters popping up, eager to bite into the tender flesh of your neck to siphon your lifeblood, wouldn't that run the risk of you actually turning into a vampire?
...Minor lapse of concentration, sorry. Valid question, though.
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Nov 19, 2012 16:50:48 GMT -5
Post by tenebraMagistra on Nov 19, 2012 16:50:48 GMT -5
The vamps in the novel didn't cause turning from bites, but from blood transfer. So as long as nobody in my session prototypes another supernatural novel that has creatures that transfer their curse via scratches or bites, none of us will turn. I just hope we don't have a Witch in our session, or we will be screwed.
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Nov 19, 2012 17:02:15 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 19, 2012 17:02:15 GMT -5
Whoops, sorry UA, I take forever with posting. As for "What I can do", I dunno, something like, say, get the entry-thing over with in record time and not have to feel the impending doom caused by a meteor five feet above my house? Hit my land and start level grinding before our Witch comes in an complicates things? Maybe keep my sister relatively safe by sending her out for something then getting done before she gets back? All who enter Sburb who aren't players are timeline-doomed. all players are doomed to forever play Sburb(until they die). On Earth, there's a chance she might live. On my Land? Not so much.
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Nov 19, 2012 18:25:25 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 19, 2012 18:25:25 GMT -5
All very good ideas, actually! But Sburb has a way of punishing those who think they're more clever than it...
Ah, who am I kidding? You're a lot more on-the-ball than I was when I played my first game. Hell, you're a lot more on the ball than I am sometimes.
There are two final pieces of advice I can give you, then I'll leave it to the smarter veterans.
The first is to look up at Skaia and it's clouds.
The second is to remember that even the impossible is possible.
Oh, I guess I have one more. If you don't have a strife specibi assigned, give an unconventional one a shot. Roadsignkind can have special effects added, Needlekind can actually be worked into a suitable set of wands, and fancysantakind does damage that is frankly sicknasty once you learn to use it like a Sboss.
Send me a message if you need help with alchemy. It's kinda my Thing. Alchemy and asian cooking sauces.
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Nov 19, 2012 20:38:22 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 19, 2012 20:38:22 GMT -5
I am? Well, if I had to take a guess, maybe it was because I got disillusioned? I mean, if you'll recall, about a week ago I still thought this was a dream. Now I know the truth, I am a lucky son of a gun. I have the opportunity to do something few players get to do: Prepare. I would be a fool if I didn't take advantage of that opportunity. I'm... Also doing some things I've been meaning to do. Tell my grandma I love her, visit some friends, pay some debts(Heh... Good-bye PSVita fund)... If they die, I want them to know I still care. If I die, I want to keep my failures off my conscience. If I am entering hell soon, I want good thoughts on my mind.
If I compare that to the people who still believe they are playing a game they can back out of when it gets scary, where they can reload if they die... I can see how you'd say I'm on the ball.
Mom always told me that if I was going to do something, to dedicate myself 100% to it. Don't do things half-way, and be ready for 'just in case's.
Thanks for the offer. I'll... I'll keep it in mind.
...Another reason I just want to get it over with is because... Well, since I'm disillusioned, I might wind up curling into a ball and crying in fear or suffering a(nother) panic attack. If I get it done quick enough, I should be able to snap myself out of it or prevent it from happening altogether.
Also... Uh... Is there an 'unarmed' way of attacking? It's not that I have a weird/awkward Strife Specibus, It's... Uh... That I don't have one. I mean, I had one, but I kinda lost it shortly after I got it. Sucks eggs, because that thing was untyped. I had yet to set it to a Kind. Which is great, because if I recall right, I was going to set it to Stonekind or something stupid like that. Now I have a card running around the house. A three-story house. With lots of locked doors and furniture for it to be under/behind. Plus, since it's been seven years, it's probably under a nice thick layer of dust.
Now that I was thinking about it, actually, I was thinking on setting it to Bladekind. If only because my RPG games should give me a wide array of potential combinations with which to make stuff from. ...Or am I mistaken?
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Nov 19, 2012 21:31:06 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 19, 2012 21:31:06 GMT -5
You'll find it (probably). Probably when your server player is...... hehhehheh if you haven't figured it out already you Sburb is a game where free will and destiny are entangled in some sort of bizarre double mobius reacharound, and the card will show up when you need it to, bar some dumb glitch.
Anyways, the right specibus will come to you when you're in the right situation for it. The glitch FAQ writer swears by roadsignKind, but I have a sneaking suspicion that wasn't really an intentional thing for him.
Me, I'm in the teens as far as sessions I have under my belt, and while I use different specibi for different situations, over 60% of the time I'm holding a shovel, and I only have shovelkind because my cousin threw a little hand-shovel at me and I meant to block it with a captcha card but I accidently caught it in my specibus card.
To be fair, I deserved it by making an "I can dig it" joke when they were digging in their yard.
And I would get the PSVita if you can. Video games are amazing alchemy fodder like you wouldn't believe. The World Ends With You && Any Toy Doll = Auto-Psychokinetical Attack Doll.
There is no greater feeling than terrorizing imps with a bunch of My Little Pony toys.
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Nov 20, 2012 15:26:01 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 20, 2012 15:26:01 GMT -5
I can still get a couple games, I just can't get a PSVita myself. I might be able to nick Derek's, assuming he's a player. Not certain if I'm understanding this right, but what about... Say... Pistol && Chibi-Robo || Portal 2? Would that make a Cleaning Robot-mounted turret? Or what? ...WAIT. What if I combined Boots && Portal 2? Would that make a set of Aperture Science Long Fall Boots? ...Wait... If I were to hop off my Dwelling Spire and survive, could I, hypothetically speaking, come back later to grind the infinite spawning-thing? Also, believe me when I say I have PLENTY of games.
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Nov 20, 2012 16:29:08 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 20, 2012 16:29:08 GMT -5
You'll have to try a variety of combinations, but you can get yourself items that have a similar form and function to items from most games if you experiment.
Though if you want Long-Fall boots, I recomment steel-toe boots or greaves, as while regular boots have the property of <Designed to protect from the elements>, steel toe boots are <Designed to protect from injury>. The alchemy system would be able to tell what the steel toe boots are made for (To an extent) and incorporate that element into the alchemy.... most of the time.
The upside is that useless things that don't turn out right won't kill you unless you're doing really weird or stupid stuff (Like hacking the alchemiter), and are just good experimentation fodder (if a waste of grist).
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Nov 20, 2012 19:24:58 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 20, 2012 19:24:58 GMT -5
So, hypothetically speaking, one combination of some weapon and Fallout 3 could make a Fat Man, while another just gets you a Fallout 3-themed weapon? Hmm... Jingwei's Shocksword... Chinese Stealth Armor... Sweet. Oh, on that note, is there a way to 'sell' items back for grist? Grist is the stuff that you alchemize stuff with, right? Can't you recycle items to get more grist? Or... I dunno... Actually combine items? The way I understand it, you do... something involving items, fiddle around with something called an Alchemiter, and then BAM! New item. What I'm asking, is if it's possible to actually combine the items via the Alchemiter, getting rid of both in the process to make something new. Not as efficient, I would think, but wouldn't it be cheaper? Oh yeah, is there a limit to how many Strife Specibus cards you can have? I mean, while I lost the card, the Strife Portfolio added itself to my Sylladex. Can't remember the number offhand, but I do recall that there were several slots. Seven or eight, if I recall right.
((OOC: Psst! If my character sends your character a PM, is that off-screen? Or do we actually send PMs in character?))
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Nov 20, 2012 20:11:39 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 20, 2012 20:11:39 GMT -5
(( Yeah, just send me a PM if you send one IC instead of posting it ))
Exactly.
Alchemy is... well, look for ectoBiologist's alchemy guide to get an understanding of how it works. Specifically, you don't actually lose the items you alchemize.
Once you get the right tools, you don't even need to make or obtain the actual base items to alchemize them, as alchemy in Sburb is much less a fusion of the physical items as much a fusion of what concepts they entail.
There's an item called a grist widget that can let you recycle them, but they're really hard to get if you don't have them in your universe already. I'd send you the code, but alchemy codes change from universe to universe, else I would just remake my SHOVEL THAT PIERCES THE HEAVENS every game and never be challanged until halfway through.
And to answer your question, you can fill up your strife portfolio, and each specibus has a limited number of slots, but the answers to those problems are "You're not going to master that number of weapon types anyways so just pick a few and specialize" and "Get wallet or array modus and just keep your extra weapons in your captchalogue" respectively.
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