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Post by mislaidLullaby on Aug 29, 2012 19:17:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure that we should be putting her on the list any time soon.
Namely, she has just suffered a corruption incident. We have no idea how she's going to act when she recovers from that. It's not a thing you walk away from lightly, after all. Give her a chance to recover first before you scare her potential future coplayers, won't you?
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Post by stanzicApparati on Aug 30, 2012 3:20:05 GMT -5
Agreed. Last I heard, she's barely functional at all - she's certainly not going to be killing anyone any time soon. Right now, she can't even defend herself from imps.
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Post by reflectiveAdvisor on Sept 1, 2012 22:02:34 GMT -5
That... That was not the case when she randomly murdered her coplayer though. I... I am sure many on that list have crossed rough waters since they were added, and nobody is shielding them. I... I don't see why make an exception in this case.
Not to mention, this was a particularly hideous thing carried only on the base of a so-called hemobased right that, the sooner the troll community understands died back on Alternia, the better.
Going... Going on on that regard. irenicAlmiraj, troll, currently and possibly natively a Bard of Flesh, happily raised their dead underlings as stumblers, happily watched them kill his coplayers, and then proceeded to drain their blood for painting and raise them as mindless undead too. After which she complained because all of their blood shades were "weak colors".
Color... Color, fixation with blood, etc. seem to suggest a relation with the church of the mirthful messiahs so be careful with her likes.
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Post by genesisArtificer on Sept 2, 2012 4:24:45 GMT -5
rA: Corrupted cannot be held responsible for their actions because they are not. The same is true for berserking Players.
This guy with the Aspect I haven't even heard about is... well he is a PK, fair and square. Unless there is an evidence against it.
Probably everyone and their Guardian had already written about it but still not everyone can get a clue:
If you had NO control over your actions, because you were Corrupted, Berserking, Cataclysm Class or suffering from Game-induced madness (some of the Rain Players who got the short end of the stick with this whole "crazy" issue), you are not responsible, therefore not a PK.
However, if you were in full control of your actions, then you are a PK.
How hard was that B|
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Post by mislaidLullaby on Sept 2, 2012 10:41:05 GMT -5
The matter of him using blood for paint has been dealt with.
I can't really comment on the zombies, but from what I gather him prototyping his own corpse sort of helped flood the place with the things and he's only got so much control. There may be more at hand here than what we've heard.
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Sept 2, 2012 12:06:38 GMT -5
Now I'm not 100% sure about irenicAlmiraj and it being his fault. He certainly knew nearly nothing about kissreviving or questbeds. The zombies are definitely a Flesh thing, like Time players with corpsepiles. And how many of you were able to drop into a new aspect and be able to control it that well?
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Post by genesisArtificer on Sept 11, 2012 15:48:19 GMT -5
Their last handles are pristineParagon and hereticalHero those two PKs are known to constantly replay with each other, and kill everyone else in session in pursuit of killing the other one. may be midly corrupted (pP= angelic, hH= otherwise)
Before you ask. This information has been sent from next Timestamp with generous abuse of Trollian Timeline feature / screwed up alchemy (don't try it at Spire's kids :3). a Seer-God of Light (that would be me) has confirmed this information as true.
have a nice past.
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Post by reflectiveAdvisor on Sept 12, 2012 12:54:58 GMT -5
Namely, she has just suffered a corruption incident. We have no idea how she's going to act when she recovers from that. That... That was not the case when she randomly murdered her coplayer though. rA: Corrupted cannot be held responsible for their actions because they are not. The same is true for berserking Players. Sometimes... Sometimes I wonder if people actually read what I write.
According... According to her coplayer when surfaceSilver murdered their coplayer she had not had any corruption proble yet and was not berserking. It was a deliberate kill carried out on the basis that the victim was lower than her on the spectrum.
I... I was under the impression this was a "Player Killer masterlist" not a "Masterlist of people that killed someone and managed not to fuck up their own lives completely afterwards and/or we think are still dangerous but if we think you are not you can get out of this haha."
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Post by ExtropianDreamer on Sept 12, 2012 16:40:09 GMT -5
Hmm, RA has a point.
I'll add this surfaceSilver to the list unless we hear otherwise. If she wasn't corrupted at the time, then there is no excuse for that sort of behaviour.
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Post by mislaidLullaby on Sept 12, 2012 16:51:01 GMT -5
And now you are not reading what I wrote.
Corruption is not a fun walk through a park. It is not a thing you simple just come back from without a hitch. She may change radically during her recovery as a result of what happened to her. We just do not know yet. That is why I objected to her being put on here.
Wait and see, okay? Just have a little patience.
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Post by ExtropianDreamer on Sept 12, 2012 18:24:42 GMT -5
And now you are not reading what I wrote.
Corruption is not a fun walk through a park. It is not a thing you simple just come back from without a hitch. She may change radically during her recovery as a result of what happened to her. We just do not know yet. That is why I objected to her being put on here.
Wait and see, okay? Just have a little patience. It changes you, yeah, I know that first hand. But so do a lot of things in this game. And sure, it might change her for the better. It might also make her worse. We don't know.
Until we find out, what we do know is that she was, and quite possibly still is, the sort of person who belonged on the list. We already have more than one person on there with a note saying they might be reformed - hell, we have folks on there with notes saying they are definitely reformed, but to watch for relapses. One confirmed incidence of PK appears to be the precedent for putting someone on the list, and she meets that criteria.
Regardless of how she comes out of this, are you going to tell me that nope, someone who murdered a fellow player BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR OF THEIR GODDAMN BLOOD, who ended the life of another person over some petty prejudice, is at no risk whatsoever of doing it again?
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Post by surfaceSilver on Sept 16, 2012 11:54:25 GMT -5
This is tungstenP@per.
I didn't tell you @bout Wesrin so you could throw Silver to the howlbe@sts, @nd I'm kind of upset th@t you took @dv@nt@ge of my trust to do th@t. She shouldn't even be on here, @nyw@y; it w@s just business @s usu@l for trolls.
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Sept 19, 2012 22:12:23 GMT -5
surfaceSilver is currently lying comatose and needs her coplayers to do basic actions like feeding and bathing her. She is no threat to anyone. And what she did before going Singer is a moot point. The troll who did those things is gone. Her shiny has been burned by the Angels. If and when she comes back to what she was before- And remember, we're talking about someone who it would be a minor miracle to be able to be self-sufficient again- and she kills again, then you can put her on the list. But that's not going to happen, frankly.
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Post by delayedMirth on Sept 22, 2012 0:14:21 GMT -5
miserlyFlare: Batshit insane pyromaniac. Might be dead, but as she (along with every mention of her in the game, including her entire planet) vanished as we "killed" her she may have somehow got into some poor sap's session. Anyway, if a planet that is on fucking fire suddenly materializes into your session, and you see a cheery girl in a frilly dress, run like hell and get your friends. You can't take her alone.
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Post by tungstenTinkerer on Sept 29, 2012 15:23:49 GMT -5
surfaceSilver is currently lying comatose and needs her coplayers to do basic actions like feeding and bathing her. She is no threat to anyone. You guys are missing the point. The old man is right, her current state is irrelevant to the purposes of being on the list or not.
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