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Post by benignnetherworld on Jun 21, 2012 13:12:45 GMT -5
everyone seems to be like... eh lately. and i know everyone needs a chance to vent, right?
so here, feel free to talk to me~ i want to help.
a couple rules
you can't mention names of people
you can't call people out
this is a FEELINGS thing
talk about how you feel, not raging at other players, or forum goers.
if you think you shouldn't post it, or it might make someone else upset
just pm it to me and i'll listen
but for now, talk talk talk
how are you guys?
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Post by repentantPrimogen on Jun 21, 2012 13:52:37 GMT -5
I am sure that this is a bit inappropriate, yet who I am to judge
I am sorry
that is all I wanted to say on the matter
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Jun 21, 2012 15:38:56 GMT -5
I understand that very few people have the amount of experience that I have, but there is a line between being inexperienced and being stone-cold retarded. There is a guy who has a bunch of knives and has proved to you that he knows how to use him. Do not piss him off or he will shank your stupid ass. I thought that would be obvious, but noooooooooo, our Heir just HAD to piss off Jack Noir and get his dumb ass killed. We threw his miserable carcass on the Questbed and he's god-tier now, but this could have all been avoided if common sense was something he had heard about before.
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Post by musicalDecay on Jun 21, 2012 16:14:11 GMT -5
Well, on my first session. I was a wraith. didn't really know what to do. just go along with it... aND THEN I CAUSED A RING WRAITH AND OTHER STUFF AND EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO HELL AND EVERYTHING I TOUCHED BASICALLY DIED AND I'M SURE EVERYONE HATED ME AND MY APOCALYPSE STUFF ACCIDENTALLY PERMA KILLED ONE OF ARE PLAYERS AND BAAAAAAAA......... okay, sorry about that. I just really hate that session and the memories from it. feels better to pathetically scream at a random person about the bad stuff.
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Post by apianAnchorite on Jun 21, 2012 16:24:33 GMT -5
I'm really confused. About this whole killing thing. Like. Apparently, according to them game, I need to accept that sometimes you just have to kill people, to protect the ones you love if nothing else. And that sucks, but I guess I don't really want to die either so.
But, on the other hand, PK is somehow not ok? Except that asshole punched my sister AGAIN. Like. If anyone in the whole messed-up game should die, it'd be him. Fucking imps are just little obnoxious dudes, you glue their asses to the floor and ollie outie, they won't hurt you any. This guy is BEGGING for it. And everyone acts like this is all super obvious and self-explanatory and I just don't get it.
Killing is hard, and I don't understand.
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Post by apianAnchorite on Jun 21, 2012 16:25:14 GMT -5
Also, @md: *Hugs* *All the hugs*
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Post by musicalDecay on Jun 21, 2012 16:34:15 GMT -5
*Hugs back* Thanks, mine was more of an indirect thing with a broken [judgement day] attack. But killing in always really hard. And on the sister thing, remember. broken knee caps and a bribed healer can do a lot without killing. Just make sure to fix him up later.
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Post by benignnetherworld on Jun 21, 2012 16:58:24 GMT -5
you all get hugs
seriously. just hugs all around.
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Post by apianAnchorite on Jun 21, 2012 17:06:45 GMT -5
What? No, why would I want to hurt him? The only reason I can see for killing someone would be because their behavior harms others in serious ways and also there's no way of making them stop. Or, I mean, at least that's the best I can wrap my head around it anyway. I don't hate him, really; I don't want him to suffer. I just want his behavior to stop. Hurting people is just an invitation for more suffering on everyone's part. If you're GOING to use violence at all, you need to use enough to end the cycle before it starts. Or maybe I don't understand jack shit about anything. That's also a thing that's possible.  |
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Post by benignnetherworld on Jun 21, 2012 17:21:02 GMT -5
there are other ways to solve it than killing. usually just extreme pain works. no need for murder.
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Post by musicalDecay on Jun 21, 2012 17:41:14 GMT -5
No, I think I'm being the confusing one. sorry. You seemed pretty mad, so I was assuming this was going on for a long while. You should always try to solve it with words and stuff first. But if a player is abusing another player for a long time and for no reason while showing no signs of stoping. Then you may just need to get psychical. Unless you have a champion to teach him not to hurt people, sometimes you just need to show someone you're serious and teach them a lesson. Oh, I almost forgot. You don't even need to physically hurt someone. See if you can find someone that can just mentally scare him a bunch. same affect, no pain.
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Post by repentantPrimogen on Jun 21, 2012 18:00:31 GMT -5
why do you refrain from killing underlings? they are barely sentient
I can understand your lack of inclination towards killing sentient constructs, like Agents or Denizen
yet this has to happen too.
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Post by apianAnchorite on Jun 21, 2012 18:02:33 GMT -5
He's her boyfriend. I'm pretty sure she'd be mad if I broke his kneecaps, is the other part I kind of forgot to mention. And also he'd probably take it out on her, and then she'd be hurt more and this time I wouldn't be able to give her hugs and cold things to put over her eye when it happens cause she wouldn't be talking to me. Also, the not talking would probably be a problem so far as game objectives and not dying.
I mean, I don't need talking down from becoming a PK. If I had my way, we'd all play nice and I wouldn't have to hurt anyone. It's more like. I guess I don't understand why killing game people is somehow ok and killing sort-of-real-except-made-in-game-so-technically-still-game-people is not. More "why is killing ever ok?" kind of thing than "I'mma slaughter my whole party trollolol" kind of thing.
Yeah.
Also, @rp: I don't like hurting people. I mean, yeah, they're not super smart, but they're kind of cute and also they make the seriously most pitiful little whimper-oof when you knock them out. It's kind of heartbreaking. I am killing them these days, and I'm pretty sure I can make myself kill the smarter constructs when that time comes cause right or wrong I love my bro and my sis and my friends a hell of a lot more than I respect the BK's right as a sentient being to live. But I can't make myself pretend that I'm not becoming a killer because of it. If I can kill and not even care then that's a real problem.
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Post by repentantPrimogen on Jun 21, 2012 19:55:49 GMT -5
I had the reverse problem
I think I still may have, but I strive for being calm
I commend You for Your peaceful nature, fellow Knight
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Post by apianAnchorite on Jun 21, 2012 20:17:17 GMT -5
Hahaha, thanks I guess? It's not winning me any friends tbh. You should have heard the talking-to our prince gave me, lol. She found out I was still on like, the second rung of my echeladder and was Not Amused.<3
Your problem is that you figure if it's ok to kill any game constructs it's ok to kill all of them? Or that you want to? Also, lol knight of hope. *brofist*
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