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Post by wizardlyLuminary on May 8, 2016 0:51:09 GMT -5
Hey! I figured I might as well make an account on here while waiting for the new forum so that I don't have to keep posting as a guest named "Interested." I was looking for some symbols and outfit palettes for the aspects introduced by the Sburb Glitch FAQ, but I couldn't really find any full sets that I felt were up to scratch (there were a few that did look cool on their own, but they didn't quite capture that Sburb vibe to me). So, I'm working on putting together my own. I've got tentative palettes made up for each of them (with the exception of Dreams and Rain) in my best attempt to emulate the sorts of color patterns the other aspects use, while still remaining unique and distinguishable. I've also got symbols for Fate and Mist done already, though I'm a little hesitant about Fate. EDIT: Turns out the grey I picked for the Mist symbol is almost identical to the forum post BG--here's a more visible version.   If you have any feedback or suggestions for the palettes, please share! They were pretty difficult to decide on, and I wouldn't say I'm a perfect judge.  While mind gives the impression of paths diverging from a single point, I wanted Fate to give the impression of multiple paths converging on a single point. The arrows also creates a sort of target/"X marks the spot" effect, which I feel fits the aspect. I gave it 4-way radial symmetry instead of 3-way because I wanted it to sort of resemble the Light symbol (you know how the symbols tend to bear resemblances to other symbols, as letters of the alphabet do). I feel like Fate and Light have a lot in common in this AU, since they both encourage you to move forward and simply trust that things will turn out fine.  This is an alternate version I made since I'm not quite sure the other one is best--it has less of a resemblance to the other symbols, but it's a little simpler. I'd especially appreciate feedback for these.  Mist was tricky because it's the only non-canon symbol that was given any sort of descriptor in the FAQ, with GGTG saying it was "some kind of rhombus." The thing is, Sburb symbols do not like angular geometric shapes; they like swirls, curves, and circles, so I did my best to make a sort of rhombus shape out of swirls. I feel like it ended up being a pretty good representative of the idea of literal mist, and the idea of substance. This one I'm pretty happy with, but I'd still like to hear what other people think. I'm going to work my way through the rest of the symbols shortly, starting with Rhyme and Flow, but I wanted to show what I have so far and see if anyone else has any opinions or suggestions. |
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Post by horrorTerror on May 8, 2016 18:30:05 GMT -5
I like it. I can see why it's so hard to decide between Fate signs, they're both fitting, so no real opinions there. The Misty Rhombus is pretty nice and seems to draw much on other aspects designwise if you think about it, so that's good for the aspect of 'all the things all of them too much existency'.
Any plans on doing some others that have popped up like Coins, Dust, Flux, Ploy, Stage, Sound, Sight, etc. or is that a later-if-ever thing?
Also, any thoughts on potential first-characters and usernames you'd like to discuss?
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Post by smashingBrawler on May 8, 2016 19:14:38 GMT -5
Whoa those are some pretty cool designs. For Dreams and Rain specifically allow me to direct you over here. This is from a few years back and all, but I personally have been a huge fan of the designs from crystalizedQuills since I first saw them. There's also galacticCosmologist's design for Fate on the next page. I'm no expert on the design of these things and all, but I figured the least I could do was point you to another person's designs, to see if there were any ideas involved that you liked. (I also don't care what anyone says/thinks, I will always stand by the batman-esque Law design.) |
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Post by innerDesign on May 8, 2016 21:53:55 GMT -5
Wow you do nice work. Between the two fate designs I like the x design better. I've played as a Smith of Mist and your symbol looks great. Simple grays with an interesting & simple design. I'd love to see if you do outfit designs. Follow SB's link, they created exultant symbols. Wish you the best of luck in your art.  |
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Post by wizardlyLuminary on May 8, 2016 23:29:06 GMT -5
I like it. I can see why it's so hard to decide between Fate signs, they're both fitting, so no real opinions there. The Misty Rhombus is pretty nice and seems to draw much on other aspects designwise if you think about it, so that's good for the aspect of 'all the things all of them too much existency'. Any plans on doing some others that have popped up like Coins, Dust, Flux, Ploy, Stage, Sound, Sight, etc. or is that a later-if-ever thing? Also, any thoughts on potential first-characters and usernames you'd like to discuss? I'm not currently planning on doing any other aspects; I'm not familiar with them, and figuring out good palettes and symbols for these ones is tough enough! I've got a character named Abel Warrick lined up, a wizardy type and likely native Seer of Law, but I haven't decided on a chumhandle for him yet. I figured it'd not urgent, since these forums will soon be defunct and I can start him off on the new ones. Whoa those are some pretty cool designs. For Dreams and Rain specifically allow me to direct you over here. This is from a few years back and all, but I personally have been a huge fan of the designs from crystalizedQuills since I first saw them. There's also galacticCosmologist's design for Fate on the next page. I'm no expert on the design of these things and all, but I figured the least I could do was point you to another person's designs, to see if there were any ideas involved that you liked. (I also don't care what anyone says/thinks, I will always stand by the batman-esque Law design.) I did see that thread, and while I find many of the symbols visually appealing, they don't really look like Sburb symbols to me, you know? I ran my symbols for Fate, Mist, Rhyme, and Flow mixed in with the canon ones by a non-Homestuck friend of mine and asked them to guess which ones were fake, and they guessed Void, Hope, and Mind before any of mine; that's the sort of consistency I'm going for. Wow you do nice work. Between the two fate designs I like the x design better. I've played as a Smith of Mist and your symbol looks great. Simple grays with an interesting & simple design. I'd love to see if you do outfit designs. Follow SB's link, they created exultant symbols. Wish you the best of luck in your art. Yeah, I think I like the first Fate symbol better too. And I may do designs for the non-canon classes later if there's enough interest, but that's even more investment than the symbols, so I'd want to make sure they'd be appreciated enough to be worth it. ---  Here's my symbol for Rhyme! I incorporated the "snowflake + pause button" idea genesisArtificer had, but I didn't want to make it out of straight lines, so I incorporated the circle cut-outs and little spiky shapes from the Doom symbol.  And here's my Flow symbol! I liked the "fast forward button + fire alchemical symbol" idea, but triangles just don't really encompass the idea of flow, you know?  I really liked the idea of Breath, Life, Flow, and Might all being thematically coherent with the "two adjacent swirls" motif, since together they make up the four elements. And, while I wasn't intending it while designing the symbol, Mist looks a little similar too, which works because Mist is about substance and the four elements together are supposed to comprise all substance.  This one actually took the longest to decide on out of all of them--at first I wanted to do something with a crumbling effect because of Sand's themes, but it was hard to draw anything like that that fit the Sburb style at all. Then I thought "when you look at the Breath symbol, you don't see destruction or freedom or whatever, you just see a gust of wind" and decided to just try to make something that the viewer could immediately connect to sand. Hence, an hourglass. That's all that I have for now; next will be Law and Stars, followed by finally figuring out to represent rainbowness and transparency for Rain and Dream. Feedback still appreciated! |
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Post by smashingBrawler on May 9, 2016 10:13:13 GMT -5
Okay, gotta say, I very much like all of these so far - except maybe sand, because I personally think of Hourglasses as being to time-related, though I have no idea what else would work for sand and I would say it definitely feels closer to canon than other designs I've seen. Can't wait to see more, though I'm very curious if you can beat Batman!Law
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Post by wizardlyLuminary on May 9, 2016 16:37:06 GMT -5
Okay, gotta say, I very much like all of these so far - except maybe sand, because I personally think of Hourglasses as being to time-related, though I have no idea what else would work for sand and I would say it definitely feels closer to canon than other designs I've seen. Can't wait to see more, though I'm very curious if you can beat Batman!Law Honestly I'm still very unsatisfied with Sand, but I spent longer on trying to come up with something for it than for any of the others so I really just don't know what to do. I'm going to try to get some suggestions and rework it. As for Law:  I wanted to have as least one symbol that matches Hope's abnormally complex design so it doesn't look so out of place (as I said before, one of my non-Homestuck friends actually thought that Hope's symbol was fake in comparison to the others). I didn't want to be quite as oblique as a set of scales at first, but there aren't really any other easily recognizable symbols for law (except maybe handcuffs, but you can imagine why having a pair of round shapes as a symbol displayed on the chest would be a bad idea).  I wanted the Stars symbol to resemble the Light symbol, since the sun is a star and all, but I'm not entirely sold on this. I may rework it to look a little more unique; maybe put more emphasis on circles instead of squigglies.  I'm just using lavender as a placeholder for Dreams right now since it's pretty and isn't associated with any other aspects, though I'm prooobably just going to represent Dreams' transparency by turning the opacity way down. I've always associated dreams with clouds and pastel colors, and with clouds being such an important reoccurring motif in HS (not to mention one associated with a force of creation, as Dreams is about creation), I felt it fit. I'm actually pretty proud of this one; one of my friends said it looks like I pulled it straight from the comic, but it was entirely freehanded c:  The Rain symbol obviously resembles the Blood symbol, but it also slots up perfectly with the Dreams symbol to make it look like the cloud is raining. The lime green is also just a placeholder palette; I'm thinking of having the final representation for Rain be a gif with shifting rainbow colors (though there will still be a "default" palette to make drawing static images of rain easier). This is another symbol I'm not super sold on, though, so if anyone has any better ideas, let me hear them. So, that's all of the symbols! I'm still likely going to rework some of them (namely Sand, Stars, and Rain), which feedback would be very helpful for, so let me know if you have any ideas. |
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Post by horrorTerror on May 9, 2016 17:59:17 GMT -5
Maybe Sand could be sort of sand-dune-y. Sort of opposition-y to Might's wave, or maybe the beach next to it.
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Post by innerDesign on May 9, 2016 20:51:06 GMT -5
Computers la ging and shtime ifting so i'l be quck. as I travle throghu the ivod
Rhyme, Law & Dream looks good. Flow looks much too like Life, Might too much looikeks Breath, same with Blain too Rood and Star too Light.
Sand I'm good with over all but I do agree it needs work.
ID over and out
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Post by smashingBrawler on May 9, 2016 23:23:23 GMT -5
Contrarily to ID, I love the way that Dreams and Rain fit together neatly, I might even change SC's avatar image to be a combo of those (if that's okay with you) instead of those other designs. I think the similarity to blood might be a small problem, but it's still pretty different. Maybe a few more turns/twists in the 'rain'?
Love Law, it's perfect. It's beating batman. I'm in shock. It might be because I'm a libra though, and am all about the scales. For Stars, though, I'm VERY curious if you can beat the Katamari version of the symbol from that old thread in my mind. So far I still prefer the Katamari ball, though.
To agree with inner, though, the more I see them, the more I'm apprehensive about the similarity the Flow and Might symbols provide to the other aspects in the elemental quartet you described. Especially since you have the pause+snowflake for Rhyme, which has always been tied in opposition to Flow. Could some kind of firey fast-forward work?
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm also thinking about the connection of might and sand... hmm... maybe I should try my hand at a bit of this.
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Post by wizardlyLuminary on May 9, 2016 23:51:04 GMT -5
Maybe Sand could be sort of sand-dune-y. Sort of opposition-y to Might's wave, or maybe the beach next to it. I tried a couple dune designs, but they're just not an easily recognizable symbol like an hourglass, and aspect iconography is all about recognizable symbols. I'll give it another shot, though. Computers la ging and shtime ifting so i'l be quck. as I travle throghu the ivod Rhyme, Law & Dream looks good. Flow looks much too like Life, Might too much looikeks Breath, same with Blain too Rood and Star too Light. Sand I'm good with over all but I do agree it needs work. ID over and out When designing these, I keep in mind this post from Hussie: "I designed the symbols themselves with an eye toward simplicity, verging on minimalism, and visual consistency within a developing iconic vocabulary. That’s why you see these latest two echo aspects of others. Life is a simple transform of a tilted breath symbol, while void is kind of a “hollowed out” space symbol. [...] It’s hard to get worked up at the dude who invented the alphabet because the “p” is just a backwards “q”. That’s part of the point of a vocabulary of shapes, to introduce some standardization and logical repetition of form. Simplicity is also key, from precedents already set. Time was just a gear. Nothing too inherently exciting about that. The idea is to use very simple, usually abstract shapes to convey these broad concepts, while also building a little self-consistent pictographic language." Hussie purposefully made Life look a lot like Breath to further this idea of visual consistency, and I wanted to continue that. Breath, Life, Flow, and Might are like the letters d, p, q, and g: similar enough to clearly belong together, but distinct enough to tell them apart is you know the alphabet. And like I said before, I really like the idea of them looking like a set because of how they're unrelated idea-wise, yet account for the 4 elements together. Rain and Stars I will definitely tweak to try to look a little more unique though, since I wasn't satisfied with them to start with. Contrarily to ID, I love the way that Dreams and Rain fit together neatly, I might even change SC's avatar image to be a combo of those (if that's okay with you) instead of those other designs. I think the similarity to blood might be a small problem, but it's still pretty different. Maybe a few more turns/twists in the 'rain'? Love Law, it's perfect. It's beating batman. I'm in shock. It might be because I'm a libra though, and am all about the scales. For Stars, though, I'm VERY curious if you can beat the Katamari version of the symbol from that old thread in my mind. So far I still prefer the Katamari ball, though. To agree with inner, though, the more I see them, the more I'm apprehensive about the similarity the Flow and Might symbols provide to the other aspects in the elemental quartet you described. Especially since you have the pause+snowflake for Rhyme, which has always been tied in opposition to Flow. Could some kind of firey fast-forward work? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm also thinking about the connection of might and sand... hmm... maybe I should try my hand at a bit of this. You're totally free to use these symbols for anything within the RV AU, though you should probably wait until I have the set finalized. And I'm glad you like the Law symbol that much! I think it's probably my favorite out of all of them. I do agree that Stars is lacking, and that katamari ball symbol actually is one of the few from that old thread that I found very appealing; the only problem is that it isn't stylistically consistent with the others. I can try to make a new version of the Stars symbols that looks more like the katamari ball one, though. I explained my reasoning for the Flow and Might symbols above, and additionally, when I first posted the Flow symbol I noted how I liked the old idea of using the ">>" symbol in the Flow symbol, but it wouldn't be as stylistically consistent or as flowing as the swirl. As for the Might and Sand connection, I'm leery of making any aspect symbol pair look like an obvious pair (with the Dream and Rain slotting together being more of an easter egg than an attempt to make them a matched set), since none of the other pairs we see look like that. --- So, I'm going to experiment more with the Sand symbol, touch up the Rain symbol, and try to make the Stars symbol look more like the katamari ball one. I'd like to get some more opinions on the Flow and Might symbols before considering changing them, since unlike those other three, I'm pretty happy with them already. Feedback and suggestions are appreciated as always! |
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Post by smashingBrawler on May 10, 2016 0:20:55 GMT -5
Fair enough, right now I'm actually looking at my own rough design for the might symbol by combining both the design from the old thread and your own. I kinda prefer it's color palette for might - or at least the color for the symbol, because of how it's a bit farther from Breath's colour (never really liked the bright pale blue they used for might's palette in the other thread). Anyway, what I'm basically considering is two swirls, but unlike in yours where you have the two swirls breaking away from eachother, I'm thinking of having one wrap around with the other in some way - basically to make some kind of fist made of waves. I'll throw it up here to contrast with. Just to re-iterate though, it's more of a rough proof of concept than anything. Still not quite sure how to make it work. (I would also be very interested in seeing a katamari-esque stars symbol in a style closer to yours/that of the others)  Edit: After messing around with Flow for a little bit, I suddenly realized that all I had done was flip the sprite and elongated the larger swirl so that a kind of 'fast forward' made up the null space. I'm getting more okay with Flow again. I think my problem is/was just the direction it faces - probably because of the direction we read in, I think of your flow symbol as pointing back instead of forward. It's super nit-picky and honestly not that big a deal now that I've figured out what was irking me. Still feeling iffy about might though - I think it's that part of me doesn't like that the waves are crashing into each other, when I think of might as being more tied to a cohesive force/effort. Oh and I think I finally put a finger on why I have the problem with might's color - it feels a little too close to breath's shirt colour. |
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