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Post by tranquilCreator on Oct 4, 2012 14:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by tranquilCreator on Oct 4, 2012 14:37:19 GMT -5
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Noel Epstein and I’m a normative Judaist. I’ve taken the duty of playing this game for the sake of deconstructing its difference from my own beliefs. From what I’ve heard of it, its mechanics directly dispels the classic creationist theorem. This is where I come in, my goal is to try and play SBURB and write down my findings. Ultimately this will most likely end with the final proof that SBURB is erroneous and the universe is not made by some kids who play a videogame, which is a stupid theory.Well, back to the point. The game arrived in my mailbox, and I’ve installed it on my computer, only to come to the conclusion that I need a second player. A minor setback, but I’ll stick through. Is anybody interested in doing this run-through with me? I’ll try not to be a huge prick. I’m really just a nice guys with some set principles.
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Post by overwroughtStenographer on Oct 4, 2012 18:49:56 GMT -5
It's going to 13e tough finding people to play with here. Most of us are already trapped in our own perpetual nightmare games. Try 12ounding up whoever you know and would find most tolerable to be stuck with for the next 6 perigees to a sweep. Also grab anything you want to hang on to for the 12est of your life, however long that is. Maybe stock up on whatever you like to eat while you're at it.
13elieve me, I hope you're 12ight and it turns out this whole thing's just some horrible daymare we're all suspended in. 13ut in general 13e prepared for a series of extremely unpleasant surprises.
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Post by stanzicApparati on Oct 4, 2012 18:58:12 GMT -5
Your co-players are already in your session. Those people who've been pestering you for years now? That's probably them.
Also, re: disproving the way the universe is made - have fun with that. For your next trick, prove that the universe isn't a frog!
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Post by ExtropianDreamer on Oct 4, 2012 19:55:52 GMT -5
Sorry my good man, but I'm afraid you're going to be quite disappointed. The universe is quite unambiguously a giant frog, and also quite unambiguously it was created by a bunch of folks (not necessarily children though) playing this nightmare of a game. There are a number of skeptics and scientists playing the game already. Trust me, they've checked. I've watched them. (My first session? Five scientists, one priest. You better believe there were experiments being run. I assume nothing has changed in the twenty odd years since.)
If you ever just want to talk comparative religion though, I'm happy to indulge you. I so rarely get any use out of that part of my clerical training nowadays.
Though I must ask; How did you find out about the details of the game before you even started playing? And without also learning why asking for folks to play it alongside you on these forums is pointless? As SA said, your co-players are already located in your universe. You've probably known them all your life.
Your first post is also kind of worrying. 'God is dead'? While true, it doesn't seem like you're aware that you wrote that. That's generally not the best sign in the world.
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Post by repentantPrimogen on Oct 6, 2012 4:19:43 GMT -5
hello
if you want to discuss Your findings I am sure that Seer Network could answer most of Your questions
their official blog can be found here asktheseernetwork.tumblr.com/
good luck in Your Session
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Post by tranquilCreator on Oct 6, 2012 11:49:34 GMT -5
Thank you all for responding. 
oS: I can barely understand what you're saying... Sorry.
sA: But I haven't started the game yet... I'll try to convince them to play, thanks. The universe is not a frog... Do you even realize how stupid you sound?
eD: You do realize it's a game right? Jeez. The universe isn't a frog, people! I know the essential of the game from an FAQ on some obscure website I found after I recieved the Disc. Also, what are you talking about? You guys are cryptic as fuck.
rP: Thank's for the link, I'll check it out when I get the time.
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Update:
Ok, I rounded up my stupid friends. We are 4 in total. We met over the GAMEBRO fora. They've also received the game from the GAMEBRO special SKAIANET issue. So that's lucky. None of us have had the chance to play it, though.
We are:
Me.(tranquilCreator)
Ann Collins.(menialDemoniac) She's the most tolerable of the 3. She has some weird tastes. Such as really noisy music that just hurts the eardrums. ugh. She said she agreed to play, in order help me out with my research.
Mark Rogers.(nonpareilSentinel) He's just annoying. Always rambling about himself, generally a douchebag. He likes First Person Shooters.
He agreed to play because he's obsessed with winning.
Kim Matthews.(ancientParaphernalia) I don't talk much to her. She's nice, I guess. She's quite interested in antiques and old books. I don't know what else she likes, really. Awkward.
She agreed to play because Ann did. They're good friends.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Oct 6, 2012 15:28:46 GMT -5
Well, spoilers for the frog stuff- the game contains a quest wherein your player of Space needs to use... some kind of silly convoluted time-travel thing in order to breed a bunch of frogs. This results in something called the "Genesis Frog", which as far as I can tell is a real thing.
The game's lore, of course, leads one to believe that this frog is, literally, an entire universe- specifically the one you're supposed to create. Whether the game lore is right and the frog actually contains the spawned universe is a much more troublesome proposition. The frog could just as easily be a representational interface, or just some completely unrelated creature symbolic of one's journey, or have some more limited relationship to the universe allegedly spawned.
Now, the real kicker is that nobody's observed the spawned universes firsthand- since we're all stuck replaying, none of us have had the chance to visit the "child universes" the game purports to create. As such, the creation myth implicit in the game's storyline is almost impossible to verify, and aside from Sburb's own testimony we have very little reason to believe the game actually performs its intended function. If, indeed, the creation of a universe is its intended function at all- there's certainly no obvious causal link between the frog breeding quest and any particular attribute of the resultant universe.
I'll certainly be following your research- while I reject the creationist hypothesis, the Sburb-positive heroic zeitgeist of the replayer community is just as worrisome, if not moreso. I'll be interested to see what you uncover, if my network doesn't do so first.
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Post by overwroughtStenographer on Oct 6, 2012 15:36:50 GMT -5
the Sburb-positive heroic zeitgeist of the replayer community |
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Post by stanzicApparati on Oct 6, 2012 17:26:01 GMT -5
sA: But I haven't started the game yet... I'll try to convince them to play, thanks. The universe is not a frog... Do you even realize how stupid you sound?
eD: You do realize it's a game right? Jeez. The universe isn't a frog, people! I know the essential of the game from an FAQ on some obscure website I found after I recieved the Disc. Also, what are you talking about? You guys are cryptic as fuck. |
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Post by tranquilCreator on Oct 7, 2012 5:44:25 GMT -5
Even though your handle is mildly eccentric, spacetimeCounselor; I must confess that you have made me regain faith in this forum. You seem to be somewhat sane even though you've played the game for a while. Maybe I should research the psychological impact the game has on veterans. How is this game not banned?
In response to sA: I'm sorry if I seemed rude, but if sC is right I don't believe you have any proof at all. I'll be glad to discuss with you.
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Update:
Ok, so Mark is my server player because god dammit! I'm quite surprised that my comrades know so much about this game, despite the fact that none of us have talked about it before. Okay, the walkthrough says I have to choose my 'Fetch Modus' and 'Strife Specibus' what an odd jargon this game has. I'm a bit confused regarding the controls of this game.
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tranquilCreator[TC] began pestering nonpareilSentinel[NS]
TC: It hurts to admit that I don't understand anything. Where are the controls to this game? The walkthrough is incredibly vague.
NS: omg ur so fucking stupid
NS: what part of reality altering do u not get?
TC: Oh. I just thought it was some sort of intensifier. So good it'll alter your perception of reality.
TC: Wait, so everything that is written in the walkthrough is going to happen in reality. Dang. The whole thing makes so much more sense now. Quick! What do I do?
NS: ur objectively the biggest noob
NS: first of all calm ur tits its gonna be fine we taking this slow
NS: u can turn ur strife specibus around to allocate a weapon
to it
TC: Is there a set parameter for what I can use as a weapon?
NS: not that in aware but dont pick anything stupid or ull just weigh me down
TC: Don't be a prick. I think I'm going to choose a staff. Yes staves sound nices.
TC:How do I allocate a weapon into my strife specibus?
NS: if its not in the most used section just write the code for the specific weapon class.
NS: in ur case staffkind
NS: but dont bother its probably in the most used section just tap it with ur finger or something
TC: Thank you, I've equipped a broom without it's head. This is just plain silly.
Mark is currently moving my furniture around; this is pretty freaky. I can't wait to alchemize stuff. This game seems quite funny, actually.
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Post by overwroughtStenographer on Oct 8, 2012 23:08:03 GMT -5
Maybe I should research the psychological impact the game has on veterans. This game seems quite funny, actually. |
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Post by ExtropianDreamer on Oct 10, 2012 11:41:46 GMT -5
Maybe I should research the psychological impact the game has on veterans.
If I recall correctly, mental instability has a bell curve distribution when it comes to sessions completed. Sboobs haven't had a chance to suffer the full range of trauma Sburb offers, while vets have had to either deal with their issues or die. It's the folks in between who tend to be the worst off.Whether the game lore is right and the frog actually contains the spawned universe is a much more troublesome proposition. The frog could just as easily be a representational interface, or just some completely unrelated creature symbolic of one's journey, or have some more limited relationship to the universe allegedly spawned.
While there is no recorded incidence of a player entering the universe they have created, that is not to say there have never been incidences of them interacting with it.
I believe there was, way back when, a large and concerted effort to investigate this particular issue. The papers published as a result should still be found somewhere in the PrototypeTowers archives, check the 0000 category and search for 'Incestuous Frog Breeding'. There are circumstances where it is possible to observe and even communicate with the universe you create, and at these times it becomes very apparent that yes, the universe is in fact a giant Frog. Which, yes, sounds fairly stupid, but how something sounds has never really had much of an effect on whether or not that thing is actually true.
Contrary to what you might believe SC, you are far from the first person to perform a scientifically rigorous investigation into the workings and common assumptions of Sburb. Most of what the community accepts as fact has actually been tested and proven at some point in the past. |
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