Intentional Tigering

[silentAnswer]

Danny, if you're reading this, leave the page now. Reading any further will cause a time paradox, and that means a repeat of yesterday.

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Ok no it won't but I don't want him reading this. Ever.

So... I need someone to explain why intentionally giving someone the Tiger is wrong. GM's guide says not to do it, I know. But it'd solve so many problems, and it'd let him do what he wants without hurting the team, and he wouldn't really be dying, and he wouldn't even feel anything because he'd be asleep at the time, and anyways it'd only have to happen to him once rather than over and over.

[tungstenTinkerer]

In case you failed to notice, dying is a pretty big deal. It's either something that... happens or something you must be ready for. Generally speaking, people that get tiered against their own consent show resentment against their tier-ers and that is enough of a reason. It's not something people want done to them, unless they say they are ready.

[ExtropianDreamer]

Cogs has the jist of it. Most folks aren't ready to experience their own deaths, especially not at the hands of one they care about, and will often resent the person who kills them. It can also be highly stressful, contributing to the inevitable mental breakdown we're all at risk of.

There are also a very small number of circumstances where god-tiering either fails to work correctly, or where having a separate dreamself would be more useful. But those are both very rare circumstances, and should be considered secondary to the fact that most people just don't want it.

[casualUcalegon]

[Warrrrning]

Yeah don't Tier someone withoUt their permission. It's fUcking scary when Ur dreamself starts bleeding oUt withoUt warning.

And retaliation is totally a thing. I cUt the hands off the dUmbass that force-Tiered me, and if U ask anyone here I am totally a nice gUy.

[tenaciousTheseus]

Another thing that might happen is that when you tier, you get quite a lot of control over your aspect, and a lot of power. If you don't know how to use that aspect, then you're going to go out of control trying to learn. Better to experiment when your power can't accidentally kill everyone.

[wavebreakGladiator]

Yeah I'm really just repeating what everyone else has said but don't do it without permission
It might not be a permadeath but itis dying. It can still be traumatizing as hell, just like any other death. At the very least doing it without permission can just bring in all sortsa trust issues which is probably the last thing you need right now

[silentAnswer]

Right, you're... of course you're right. I know death's traumatic. It's just, I...

If I asked him he'd probably do it. That's the thing. He's so big on chivalry, even if he won't own up to it, if I told him it'd save me a branch or two he'd jump at it. But maybe my problems really are supposed to be my problems, and his problems really are supposed to be his problems. I should just let him not know what dying feels like for as long as I can.

This... I shouldn't have even thought this. I shouldn't have posted it. This isn't coming from a good place.

[wavebreakGladiator]

Hey I get wanting to prevent a few more offshoots. Just maybe step back and think about talking to him about it. Maybe not so much saying "hey if you do this, it'll prevent a few more doomed timelines" but. yeah. Just maybe talk about the possibility of it.
It's tough having to deal with death, especially as much as people with our aspect gotta do it
And, uh, if you need someone to talk to, to vent or anything, you're welcome to PM me or something or I'm sure there's others around too who are willing to lend a shoulder to lean on

[silentAnswer]

So yeah, we talked. More. He thinks this might just be the aftereffects of my first encounter with you-know-what speaking and said we should wait to make any decisions like that until I'm back to normal. Or until I'm obviously not going to get back to normal. Especially since it might be risky to do it with him this unskilled anyways.

Thanks for talking sense into me, I guess.