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Nov 22, 2012 19:18:14 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 22, 2012 19:18:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Guide of Space. Ugh. My fingers and my brain, why do they do these thiiiiiings.
Ahem.
*cough*
I'm... extremely worried, since this session isn't following the pattern of a lot of sessions. Space player waking up early on Prospit is normal, but they usually wake up years before they ever play Sburb, to the point where they've been awake for years when they do.
Secondly, usually everyone knows everyone before the game begins.
Frankly, you've got a lot bigger metaglitches and nasty patternbreaks to be concerned with than one more player having an outie than an innie than Sburb usually wants.
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Nov 22, 2012 20:14:07 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 22, 2012 20:14:07 GMT -5
...Huh? Oh, no, dude. I already knew these guys. The thing is that Derek's actually a pretty popular guy, knows about half the people in town by extension, the contest gave him and five friends a copy of Sburb, I just wanted to make sure which five friends they were. I'm not supposed to tell anyone who's getting 'em. Supposed to be a surprise or something.
And... Uh... Could my recently being taken off of some medication have anything to do with it? I mean, we've already seen that sedatives, which also inhibit thought processes, basically intoxicates my dreamself, so what about ADHD meds? For all I know, I could've been disco dancing shirtless on the top of my Dream Tower since I was diagnosed several years ago. Or, you know, sound asleep in my dream bed, not 'awakening' due to the effects of the meds. Or maybe I already had awakened, but just forgot about the dreams? Who knows? I'll ask my folks if I ever mentioned dreaming about golden cities and white-carapace people when I was a kid.
((OOC: Er... Am I screwing things up horribly? Not my intention, I swear!))
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Nov 22, 2012 20:49:19 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 22, 2012 20:49:19 GMT -5
(( Nah, you ain't screwing things up. Sburb is just glitchy as all hell. If it doesn't follow patterns that are common in sessions, it doesn't mean you or your story is bad, just that uA is going to notice those differences and assume they're some form of glitch. That is, when he notices. He's kinda dumb for a guy with as many replays as him. ))
Oh, that's not too bad then. I guess there aren't any weird metaglitches going on. Most people end up playing with internet friends they're very familiar with and have a lot of affinity for, but that's fine.
The issue that arises when that isn't the case is just human nature and interpersonal problems that can arise.
And I would imagine your medication could be the cause.
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Nov 22, 2012 21:55:24 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 22, 2012 21:55:24 GMT -5
((OOC: Oh. Phew. Okay, thanks. Had me worried for a bit, there.))
That's good, then. I'm more familiar with some of these guys than others, though. For example, while I consider myself to be fairly good friends with Derek and Jake, I mostly know about Jack through his younger sister, Janice.
...Ugh. Is there any way to tell in advance who's going to be the server/client player? Or the Witch? Because I just got this creepy feeling like technicalities are going to be in play.
Witches are practically guaranteed to prototype something that will complicate things, right? Well, if they prototype something into their client's Basesprite(Or whatever it's called) via whatever manipulation tool they've got that complicates things... They still technically prototyped it.
Alternatively, I'm just being paranoid.
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Nov 22, 2012 23:04:57 GMT -5
Post by cannonOverload on Nov 22, 2012 23:04:57 GMT -5
OK, I'M BACK. I'M ALRIGHT. NOW, BACK TO BUSINESS. ...Ugh. Is there any way to tell in advance who's going to be the server/client player? Or the Witch? Because I just got this creepy feeling like technicalities are going to be in play.
Witches are practically guaranteed to prototype something that will complicate things, right? Well, if they prototype something into their client's Basesprite(Or whatever it's called) via whatever manipulation tool they've got that complicates things... They still technically prototyped it.
Alternatively, I'm just being paranoid. ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS: 1. [SERVER/CLIENT] AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO. 2. [WITCH I.D] ALL I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW, IS THAT DUE TO TIME SHENANIGANS, WE KNOW THAT THE WITCH TYPES IN RED TEXT. 3. [WITCH'S AND PROTOTYPING] YES. TO BOTH PARTS. BEWARE THE WITCH PROTOTYPING, AND MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY PROTOTYPED IMMEDIATELY, TO PREPARE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES. AND KEEP THAT PARANOIA, IT'S A GREAT THING TO HAVE, IN SMALL AMOUNTS. For all I know, I could've been disco dancing shirtless on the top of my Dream Tower since I was diagnosed several years ago. ........... ...WHAT? WHY "disco dancing shirtless" SPECIFICALLY? DO I WANT TO KNOW? YES. I WILL REGRET THIS DECISION...
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Nov 22, 2012 23:12:37 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 22, 2012 23:12:37 GMT -5
Oh, before I wake up, real quick question: The minute the game starts, I'm going to be dropped into the thick of it, right? Any plausible way of me connecting to my Aspect before hand? You know, freestyling and all that?
edit: To answer your question, cO, that is going to be my go-to phrase for intoxicated debauchery. Because when I was 'awake' while my realself was on sedatives, Miss Taylor found me disco dancing shirtless on top of my Dream Tower. And, apparently, whenever I started having lapses in concentration, I would start taking off my shirt and start dancing to a nonexistent beat. She snapped me out of it, repeatedly, with glasses of cold water, checkers pieces, and finally bashing me over the head with a pillow until I came to my senses. That said, I'm going to avoid alcohol for the next... Rest of my life.
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Nov 22, 2012 23:17:36 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 22, 2012 23:17:36 GMT -5
Eh, to be honest worrying about the witch prototype is literally the worst thing you could be doing.
You know it's going to go wrong, right? It always goes wrong. But what about the hundred other things that may or may not go wrong? If you waste your energy on lost causes, you won't have any for potential victories that can become lost if you don't focus on them.
Besides, have you been watching the clouds in Skaia?
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Nov 23, 2012 14:07:18 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 23, 2012 14:07:18 GMT -5
Okay, before I do ANYTHING, you are aware that you are basically asking me to look at the sun, right? And... These are the prophecy clouds, right? Eh... I... I'm kinda worried about looking at them, to be honest. I mean, this is just me going by Doctor Who timey-wimey stuff here, but if I observe a prophecy, that means that the event becomes fixed in the timeline. It will happen. If it doesn't happen, baaaaad stuff will. In Doctor Who, altering a fixed point in time basically breaks time, causing it ALL to happen simultaneously. Here, I assume this results in a doomed timeline.(Or Omegaglitches.) From here out, me not acknowledging the prophetic clouds results in the resulting event being both fixed and flux simultaneously. Long story short, I know that if I know, I won't want to know. Likewise, I know that if I don't know, I will want to know. I would flip a coin, but then that would create a timeline where I got the opposite result, and thereby did the other thing, making one of us a doomed timeline.
This all boils down to: Should I really look at the clouds?
Also, what, exactly, constitutes a doomed timeline? Is there, like, exactly ONE path in which a success in Sburb is possible? Can a doomed timeline hit the credits screen? Like, if, for example, during the final battle, one player throws an eight-sided dice-based weapon. None of the results really contribute to the battle, but at the same time, it results in a total of eight potential universes, one where each potential result occurred. In the original case, said player's presence really didn't matter all that much because the Black King was a wuss or something. Prototyped with some armless-legless doll and a hat. The base timeline won. Would the other seven win? Would their Black King get a massive power boost? Or would they just... Not go onto the screen that punts them to another session?
Argh, temporal mechanics is confusing. If I ever figure out who's the Witch, I'm going to try having him/her explain this to me. Alternatively, anyone else willing to explain so I don't have to wait a week? (4 days for Sburb to come in, three days for me to track down the Witch, optimistically speaking)
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Nov 23, 2012 16:25:37 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 23, 2012 16:25:37 GMT -5
Hahaha, temporal mechanics. TIME players can't explain Time mechanics very well.
Looking at those clouds is why space players wake up early from my understanding, so yes, get your eyes upward and stare at the Skaiadamn sun even if makes no sense to do so.
The best explanation of a splinter vs. an alpha timeline is what qualifies as each.
A) A timeline can only qualify as the alpha if it contains both the 'birth' and 'death' of the First Guardian/Debug NPC. B) If two timelines can exist and one can lead to a Genesis Frog or Scratch while the other can't, the one that can lead to those things is the alpha timeline. C) If two timelines exist and both can lead to the GFrog/Scratch then either one can be the alpha until events from it effect the past, then usually the one that effects the past is the alpha unless there are some Advanced Time Shenanigans involved.
That's the explanation one of my time players gave me once. It's an approximation and not always true, but free will does exist. It's hard to say exactly what is and isn't free will, but...
Look, you're gonna wanna look into those clouds and get those prophecies. I mean, what will you do if someone dies and you have a chance to see it in the clouds? Especially your Time player? If you see their death then you can plan around it and get ready to either corpsesmooch them or tier them.
If you hadn't seen it and prepared for it, had an idea they would bite it...
Your friend could just die.
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Nov 23, 2012 17:36:02 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 23, 2012 17:36:02 GMT -5
Okay, so, hypothetically speaking, it's quite possible for two or more timelines to continue on to the next session?
Okay, cloud-watching it is, then. Oh, there's one now. And my first cloud-prophecy is... Some kid in a tower looking at the sky- Oh. Apparently, I'm going to be doing this for a while. I'll make note of any cloud prophecies that I see, and tell 'em to you guys tomorrow.
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Nov 23, 2012 17:55:30 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 23, 2012 17:55:30 GMT -5
No. I can tell you there absolutely isn't a circumstance, bar some insane timespace glitch, that allows multiple victories from one game due to mutual alpha timelines. Here's my understanding of time in the attached file, and keep in mind that I am NOT Time and never have been Time and this is all theory and observation: Players can go down any one of the routes. The thick ones are "Potential Alpha Timelines", which will remain potential until someone takes a step down one and causes that to become the alpha timeline. Although in some cases it can be a long time before you even realize; like the orange splinter on the Red potential alpha can actually lead into the Blue timeline being the actual alpha. If you want someone who's actually playing time to explain it they'd do a better job. Or, you know, you could leave the temporal shenanigans to your timesis who's properly equipped to deal with that migrane herself and focus on your own Spacey job. EDIT: Do remember that my graphic is EXTREMELY simplified. I would need to make a 3D model to even begin to map the complexities of time. Attachments:
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Nov 23, 2012 18:21:02 GMT -5
Post by stanzicApparati on Nov 23, 2012 18:21:02 GMT -5
Hahaha, temporal mechanics. TIME players can't explain Time mechanics very well. Yes we can. It's just that the rest of you don't seem to grasp Time mechanics unless you're also Time.
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Nov 23, 2012 20:24:54 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 23, 2012 20:24:54 GMT -5
Ahh... I see. ... Kind of... Sort of... Okay, not really. Got the gist of it, though. Of all possibilities, only one will succeed, for whatever reason. I see that you had two instances of Scratch on that diagram, in that hypothetical scenario, would that make two viable timelines by two variations upon... Whatever a Scratch does? Or would one of those two be absolutely, positively, doomed to fail? Does a Scratch change depending on when it is activated? Or is it a fixed result?
Sorry about the questions, I like pondering parallel universes and the like when I get bored.
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Nov 23, 2012 21:04:59 GMT -5
Post by unfathomableArchitect on Nov 23, 2012 21:04:59 GMT -5
Without giving you details you don't need I can tell you that the primary thing a scratch does is change when the players and a set of... let's call them "substitute players" are born, usualy swapping them and in doing so turning the substitutes into the actual players.
Skaia makes the choices, and it's impossible to predict what would happen.
My information source has given me information that leads me to believe your brother is your substitute player. If a scratch occurs, most likely you will become the older brother, he the younger, and he the player.
Oh and you lose all your memories.
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Nov 24, 2012 18:19:47 GMT -5
Post by wanderingDreamer on Nov 24, 2012 18:19:47 GMT -5
Weird. Sounds almost like a plot of a fanfic, Generation-swapping.
...Speaking of weird, Staapp...? ...stanzicApparati's species was listed as 'Troll'. Erm... What? ...Admittedly, when I found this thing, and the registration process had listing my species as a field, I thought that it was just being snarky, silly, etc. But, since I am currently typing this on top of a tower overlooking a golden kingdom of pawn-people, watching the sky for prophetic clouds, while asleep, preparing for an apocalypse caused by a video game my friend got in a contest, the concept of alien life isn't exactly far-fetched. To be honest, I wouldn't be all that surprised if someone mentioned that tentacle monsters existed and had a thing for Japanese schoolgirls. As such, I really must ask, are you really a troll? And... Ah... Not the ugly ones from (human )fairy tales that live under bridges, right? Just making sure.
Now then, onto the cloud-prophecies, got four of note.
1. Janice(Jack's sister), strifing(strifeing?) alongside Jack against a large... Thing. Guessing it's an ogre? Jack's Hammerkind abstratus didn't seem to do as much damage as Janice's Knifekind.
2. Jake in some sort of crystalline cavern, fleeing from some massive quadrupedal monster. No idea what in all hell that was, dubbing it 'Behemoth' until further notice. In other news, it appears he somehow got his hands on a Gunbladekind abstratus. The heck?
3. Jane dancing along to a beat while fighting some form of Imp. She was mouthing... Something.
4. This one was of note because it was just plain weird. I was standing in the middle of a field, a hill in the background... Staring at a cow. Weird, right?.
The rest were either of me sleeping in various places(Not on any beds atop an earthen spire with the cyclonic Space symbol on it, gladly/sadly. No God-Tier in the near future) or me staring up at Skaia from my dream tower, which made me feel like Skaia was doing that to mess with me, or something.
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