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Post by cryoGenesis on Jul 5, 2014 18:57:01 GMT -5
Incoming wall of text, prepare yourself! Recheck your alchemiter pedestal- you probably made a Perfectly Generic Object; they're REALLY hard to remember. Huh. There IS a little green cube here. Pretty light, slightly spongy. This is completely useless. Anyway, I've alchemized some stuff: Computer && Everything I own = Computerized Everything (everything is computers. EVERYTHING. Okay so it's pretty heavy and I ditched all of it but still.) Phone && Blindfold = Phonefold (This is actually pretty sweet. Took me a while to make it display the view from the camera instead of a static background, and even longer to figure out how to type, but it works.) Decent sword && A pole = Sword on a Stick (I could've made this myself with some tape.) Sword on a Stick && Decent sword = Swords on a Stick (Literally just a stick with a sword on each end. It's better balanced than the Sword on a Stick, I guess.) Decent sword && Cleaver = Sword-Length Cleaver (Hell. Fucking. YESSSSSS.) Blank card && Playing cards = Captchalogue card containing Black Queen (promptly destroyed, but not before some deadly red stuff could ruin my alchemiter and force my server player to deploy a new one - at least we had the alchemiter upgrades available, so no more running around with heavy-ass totems every time I need a new sword.) Blank card && A representation of an array that I drew = Nonfunctional Array Modus (it doesn't do anything. This is even more useless than the Perfectly Generic Object.) Sword-Length Cleaver && Freezer = Cryogenic Cleaversword (I cannot resist an ice weapon.) Assault Rifle && Freezer = Ice Beam (YES.) I also tried a few of them with ||, but didn't get anything terribly useful (computer && stuff = computer-themed stuff, sword && pole = wooden sword, blank card && playing cards = deck of blank playing cards). Is || useless, or do I just not get it? I found my Quest Bed. I'm Breath - haven't figured out a way to get myself killed yet, the enemies in the area are... pretty rare (i.e nonexistent), and the game isn't letting me just kill myself. I found what looks like a list of my session's players' aspects. The symbols went like this: [Light] [Empty space, same size as the symbols] [Breath] [Hope]. I assume this means the last unidentified aspect is Hope, but what does the space mean? I know Void's symbol is frequently absent from places it should not be absent from, but we definitely do not have a fourth player. Finally, out of curiosity, I got my dreamself to hitch a ride on the outside of a transport full of soldiers from Derse (as that is my dream moon - the other two players both got Prospit) - apparently the battlefield is supposed to be spherical if every player prototyped pre-entry, but it's a cube. What did we screw up this time?
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 6, 2014 0:32:41 GMT -5
Craft a camera with a card. It'll give you a way to get codes of EVERYTHING.
No it isn't. But || is more useless during the beginning.
Maybe Void player glitched out during preinstallation. They do that sometimes.
Well, who knows. Check your moon prototowers(from a biig distance). Filled spheres should glow a little and have image of your protos. If you don't have them - you've got a Void session. Skaia is a little bit lazy, so it won't build them if they are not needed. Dead player is a sufficient justification.
Fun fact: Void session =/= Null session. You can still save the session by injecting nucleus BF from a non-Void session. That's why you need other players to win.
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Post by cryoGenesis on Jul 6, 2014 6:42:27 GMT -5
Craft a camera with a card. It'll give you a way to get codes of EVERYTHING. No it isn't. But || is more useless during the beginning. Maybe Void player glitched out during preinstallation. They do that sometimes. Well, who knows. Check your moon prototowers(from a biig distance). Filled spheres should glow a little and have image of your protos. If you don't have them - you've got a Void session. Skaia is a little bit lazy, so it won't build them if they are not needed. Dead player is a sufficient justification. Fun fact: Void session =/= Null session. You can still save the session by injecting nucleus BF from a non-Void session. That's why you need other players to win. Okay, yep, I just checked, there are four and only three are lit up. I know for a fact that I bought three copies and sent out two. I have the receipt right here and am staring at it as I type this. Also, chemicalGiganticide contacted me again. Apparently Derse is going to fling its chained-on moon into the furthest ring, and I should have my dreamself book it to my planet. While I don't really trust them, I'm not going to risk it. Finally, I did the whole ectobiology thing. There were the expected three players and three guardians, but also another two ectobabies. I have no idea who the hell they are.
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 6, 2014 7:04:42 GMT -5
You can check fate of your Void player with ecto-stuff. Get some hope-potions before that, though.
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Post by cryoGenesis on Jul 6, 2014 13:18:11 GMT -5
Alright, I couldn't get hope potions, but I managed to thread some cables from the ectobiology equipment, through more than one gate, to a terminal next to my questbed. I've covered the lot of it with explosives, and intend to operate it from the questbed. My client player will be standing at a safe distance with the detonator. This SHOULD allow me to observe the mystery player without risking my existence. I'll edit this with transcripts once I'm done.
EDIT: And I deliver. Here's the transcripts.
0m05s: Screen 1 is me. Turns out I angled the screens so that the viewpoint that observes me can also see the screen. I can see into infinity.
1m20s: Screen 2 is Helix [shortened version of my server player's chumhandle, helicalHellfire]. Nothing too interesting here.
4m44s: Screen 3 is you [directed at my client player]. I can see the screens from this viewpoint too! I can squint into infinity.
?m?s: [nearly incomprehensible] Alright, [blast of static]-our [presumably "four", started before static ends]. Let's see [short word, based on context, "who"] this [short word, possibly "guy"] i-[screen activated, file continues with static until it ends]
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 9, 2014 1:27:44 GMT -5
Yep, your Void-player is in the Furthest Ring.
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Post by helicalHellfire on Jul 12, 2014 7:19:02 GMT -5
hey, cryoGenesis' server player here. first things first, cryo wanted me to inform you all that he's having some trouble getting online, it seems that, while he's fine, every single one of his computers is corrupted now, including the ones he hasn't made yet. he didn't want to spread that (being corrupted is shitty enough, everything even remotely related to you being corrupted is just fucking irritating). he's working on getting that fixed, but for now, i'll be doing the talking with the words
so, a status update like he does i guess
that chemicalGiganticide guy contacted him yet again, got his computer corrupted, repeat like 20 fucking times, and ended up contacting me (along with "my" out-of-session player, haemophiliacHardware (what's with these people and having the same chumhandle initials as us?), but that's unrelated, he's actually pretty helpful, and sent me a couple of good codes). apparently we seriously fucked up when we installed the about-5-metres-tall drop mechanism, it has to be just fucking exact. fuck that guy. maybe he should try a plan that doesn't rely on the precision of some kid he doesn't even fucking know? just as a suggestion. something different to try. just once maybe
i too used the alchemiter a lot once cryo brought me a punched card for more cards, and made a fucking lot of stuff. i'll skip the bullshit that cryo spewed with his alchemizationy shit, but i made a ring (card calls it the skaiafall signet) that does a shitload of damage (okay so not that much but it's still a whole fucking lot compared to the axe i was using okay) but only works when skaia is in view (no indoor combat with this fucking thing). has the spirograph that shows up so fucking often on it. once I fire the beam off (well, beams, there's two and they form a double helix, what's with all this shit taking stuff from our chumhandles, first cryo's ice stuff and now my helixes) it takes like 5 minutes to get the huge skaia-blue death beam (like the first beam, but bigger) back here if i'm on a planet. i'm wearing like 8 of them (bling bling motherfuckers) so that I can actually handle groups of enemies with them (or just fire them all off at one big guy, i haven't encountered anything that it didn't kill). and there was the obligatory melee weapon. it's a double helix, it's a heat weapon, it's completely useless anywhere near cryo's ice sword because it's fucking blunt as shit and the heat and cold cancel out. computers && clothing, nothing unusual there
i've been getting the feeling that i should know who a zeroAscendant is, i know my server player (cryo's client) is photonicResonance (fitting i guess since she's a light player). i guess this mystery fucker could be our missing void player? i dunno
oh yeah and cryo got his dreamself down to his house. it's a pretty sweet setup for him, he just switches between bodies when one needs sleep
i guess that's all but i'll probably have to post again, cryo's tried a shitload of alchemy ingredients and it's not fucking working
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 13, 2014 6:32:14 GMT -5
Hope and Law PCs resist Other corruption. CG is probably 1-2 lvl corrupted, these levels are somewhat hard to identify since they have no render glitches. Fun fact: Anything that will be really hard to accept(like your deaths) or attacks that will kill him will shift him to third corruption lvl.(I basically use that as a pre-GT survival system.) I can make corruption doc if you want.
They have same IDs because they are basically your Guardians' clones.
Skaia airstrike weps drain Battlefield. Not that you should care, since your BF is broken anyway. Helixes are basically Sburb trolling you. I'm UC and i get alot of friendly carnivores on my Land.
You're a Hope player? Dive some dungeons, all Hope abilities are massively cool. Like, all of them. Just don't trust the names, Hope ability names are pretty hard to decypher for new players.
Strange. All alchemy recipes give something(usefulness not included).
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Post by helicalHellfire on Jul 13, 2014 22:10:00 GMT -5
Hope and Law PCs resist Other corruption. CG is probably 1-2 lvl corrupted, these levels are somewhat hard to identify since they have no render glitches. Fun fact: Anything that will be really hard to accept(like your deaths) or attacks that will kill him will shift him to third corruption lvl.(I basically use that as a pre-GT survival system.) I can make corruption doc if you want. They have same IDs because they are basically your Guardians' clones. Skaia airstrike weps drain Battlefield. Not that you should care, since your BF is broken anyway. Helixes are basically Sburb trolling you. I'm UC and i get alot of friendly carnivores on my Land. You're a Hope player? Dive some dungeons, all Hope abilities are massively cool. Like, all of them. Just don't trust the names, Hope ability names are pretty hard to decypher for new players. Strange. All alchemy recipes give something(usefulness not included). yeah, he doesn't seem to have any of the outward symptoms of corruption yet, but every computer he ever gets is fucked (even before i give it to him, i could probably send information back in time using it but i cbf making a protocol for time-playerless weird time shit). a guide to corruption would be helpful that would explain a lot, but it's still a pain in the ass when i'm like "hey PR told me to ask you for something" and they're like "which one" i figured it wouldn't be free. i did do ghost image of a gate || skaiafall signet, which cut down on travel time, and i've started wearing more than one on each finger for more power. gate-abusing skaiafall signet && black queen's ring: bad idea or worst idea? i have unlocked a few abilities, but i can't fucking use them. photonic claims that she couldn't use any of hers until she god-tiered, so that's probably it the alchemy works, like i mentioned, all of his computers get corrupted, sometimes before he even gets them life tip: never use a ghost image of skaia in alchemy, while skaia weapons often do shitloads of damage, skaia is fucking huge. learn from my near death
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 14, 2014 0:03:24 GMT -5
I'll make it. I dunno if it will be useful, though. You could do (Skaianet teleporter || (Cookalizer || Oven)) && Sensor module for an emergency teleporter. Anything crafted with protorings costs a lot and Red Miles are hard to control, but if your ring has no spheres, it should work by itself. You have no pluck. Kill some mobs, explore some dungeons, finish some quests. That's it. You need some echeladder levels. Gottigering gives instant last level and tons of other bonuses, having GT right now is like cheating. Yeah, i know. There's addon for the alchemy station that allows upgrades with cards. Upgrade it with microscope or magnifying glass or something.
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 14, 2014 1:11:36 GMT -5
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Post by helicalHellfire on Jul 14, 2014 6:15:13 GMT -5
alright, cryo's computers all range from the default corrupt to the low corrupt. his realself is fine, he can write things out and talk and shit, but any computer given to him is fucked. no interest in anything other-like. i managed to sneak over to his dreamself's apartment on derse, it constantly screams the letter q (not the word, i can't really describe it but it's fucking disturbing and it is definitely the letter q) when his realself is awake, and it has constant fucking seizures when his realself is asleep
i've seen the white queen's ring, it does have spheres. cryo's pretty fucking friendly with noir, so he could probably get the black queen's ring if his dreamself wasn't broken
i actually asked photonic for more details. she wasn't very fucking helpful (cryo doesn't want to guess her class, but i'm going to go ahead and guess witch based on descriptions of the godtier outfit). i'll keep grinding, our battlefield is fucked, but if it gets too fucked by my skaiafall spam, do airstrikes stop working? i kinda rely on them, they're so fucking powerful that the game's stopped giving me enemies that can be beaten by me without them and they don't get weaker even if i leave my rings behind
i do have the upgrade module, but after making it take cards directly, i filled my seven slots with a card puncher, a totem carver, the hologram thing, a cruxtruder, a full setup that only makes cards, a computer loaded with 3d modeling software (for making arbitrary shapes, it seems to use cruxite as the material, but it makes good ammo for photonic's random shit cannon), and a set of 10 loaded 20-sided dice (seems to give me a medium-to-high power boost for weapons (my current rings were all made with full rolls of 20, i just recycled the imperfect ones), and often reduces grist cost, i get the feeling that it'd actually reduce power and increase cost if any of them ever landed below 10, but they don't, i'm really fucking good at making loaded dice). any way to get more slots in this thing? i need all my weird upgrades, they're important
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 14, 2014 6:46:10 GMT -5
Good luck with that. You need, like, Breath-levels of destruction to actually break BF completely. And Waste of Sand for actually destroying it, else it'll regrow. And Skaia is connected to Green Sun, so it has basically infinite energy.
Try to deploy another one. Or upgrade it with ghost image of it. I dunno, it changes due to Version Drift.
Oh, and (Any modus or Array modus, Version Drift) && (Any wallet) gives wallet modus. It's one of physical modi - ones usable in sessions with preinstallation broken so hard Sburb never loads game controls into the universe. Cards taken from it also have bigger capacity - big enough to captcha cars.
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Post by helicalHellfire on Jul 14, 2014 8:47:11 GMT -5
that's good to know. i haven't really used other attacks since i got those op-as-fuck rings. it seems to have made the game's balance even shittier than before, nobody else can come to my planet
i punched a card with another upgrade thing, had to take my loaded dice out, but now it has 15 slots for stuff. i put a microscope in, and conveniently, it works with the 3d modeling software to let me reshape items however i like. i now have 10 superthin skaiafall signets on each finger, because i *really* like airstrikes
i took cryo's nonfunctional array modus && a wallet, it fucking works fine. there was nothing wrong with this array modus. the problem was with us
i guess the purpose of this thread is gone now, we can get sylladexes, but we're not out of the broken-ass fuckwoods yet. i did some reading (despite my lack of shift keys and overuse of the word fuck, i am actually competent), and there were just no signs of our session being post-scratch. i asked haemophiliacHardware about it, and it seems that they are the post-scratch session. i have no idea what the fuck time is doing any more. i give up. time is officially too fucked for me
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Post by uselessCarnivore on Jul 14, 2014 9:07:54 GMT -5
>i guess the purpose of this thread is gone now This thread is not useless, you'll have more weird shit going on. > it seems that they are the post-scratch session Well, you need Beat Mesa for that. I guess you'll scratch the session and quickly escape through FAKE door later? > i give up. time is officially too fucked for me Smells like timeknight spirit.
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