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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 20, 2016 7:53:59 GMT -5
Your pacing is actually pretty good though, and for Time players pacing is subjectively longer once time travel shows up. Maturity quests are entirely personal matters until they bug out, so really unless you are all hellbent on speedrunning this can be fairly close to perfectly normal.
It's only been a few days, some non-space people can go practically a month before dream-waking if nothing's particularly traumatic beyond entry. It usually takes some form of personal shock to get to it. Are people's parents dead or gone yet? Sprites abandoned and handed off pendants and songs of life? Denizens awoken and started mentally abusing? Do you even have your time travel devices yet and buried any doomed selves? If nothing else stack some beds and have someone awake on your moon try shaking them awake while you're asleep, it might help give you that initial spark of 'okay get up' if it's on dream!you's end.
Probably a good idea to start alchemizing timekeepy stuff and musical devices to get your obligatory time machine to start doing that pagey realizing of potential unless you want to rely exclusively on obscenely pluck-expensive abilities and freestyling.
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 20, 2016 11:18:15 GMT -5
Okay, good to know the timing makes sense then. None entered with anyone else - is that unusual? Anyway, my sprite departed the other day, so I have the song and pendant. As well, we're approaching the point of denizens and I just crafted some higher level weapons for strife - I have pcktwtchkind so I think they'll be me access to some time travel. I built a second item just in case they don't, so either way I guess I'll be burying a corpse soon.
Speaking of which, I think I've already got a corpse to bury.
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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 20, 2016 12:27:17 GMT -5
What died?
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 20, 2016 13:32:11 GMT -5
Me, from the looks of it. From a doomed timeline - back full of bullets. Probably means I ran from something... I guess I'll have to take whatever's coming up head on...
Just to make everything clear, I'll tell you the time devices I've got prototyped - first, I'm dual wielding with pcktwtchkind - I had a Dr.Who themed pocket watch before entry and time effects seem to be strong in things I've prototyped up from it, I also had one with the Triforce on it from Legend of Zelda, which I think is helping me drum up more of a will to fight - I wonder what aspects it's tied to. Either way, those are the ones attached to my weapons. I also managed to use a heart rate monitor mixed with some time stuff to act as a "in case of death warp back in time" emergency tool. Honestly this time travel stuff is pretty cool - aside from, y'know, the whole... seeing my own corpse thing.
Oh god I can hear the musi-
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 21, 2016 13:06:19 GMT -5
Okay, that was certainly... new. Ogre caught up to me, and, since I knew that running was a bad call, I kept hitting it with the time-travel watch and kept rolling to other point - so what took like... I think 40 solid minutes for me to pull off took like... a minute to pull of in real time. Didn't have time to catch a breather though, Terry got caught off guard and died - luckily it wasn't too severe and one of Lilia's new dupliclones was in the area. I'm guessing from the fact that I can still see this forum and post to it that I'm still in the alpha timeline, which is something reassuring. Do doomed timelines ever access this stuff?
Either way, with that crisis we've come to the agreement that we should start working in pairs to keep things safe while we grind up the echeladder more. I've been paired with Louis (Guard of Life) since the group figures that putting a Page and a Guard together seems like a nice time. Lilia is gonna be paired with Terry since we determined putting the two cataclysms in the same place this early would probably be asking for trouble. This leaves Felix and Maria as the final duo, since we figure that whatever happens to space will happen much farther down the line when the pluck costs for it's abilities aren't as relatively high.
So yeah, Felix and I are off to go into a tag-team temple. Hopefully I'll have the patience to deal with all his complaining.
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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 21, 2016 15:37:57 GMT -5
Prototyping refers to 'chucking stuff in seizure kernelsprite'. I hope to Vivec you mean alchemizing or that Black King be nigh-omnipotent. Doomed timelines can't access this forum due to the way the aspect of Time folds unhappenshoulds, but they can upload stuff to Ring general servers and sometimes Others into trash collection undoom and decayfree stuff once all players are dead where Sburb stuffs doomed places for them to play their role, donate their little costs of torture, and give us some new souls to play with in bubbles. Some cursed places can phantom post on player end only however that's usually a psychoruins issue only provided computers are reasonably secure. I think the Others in charge of hosting and protection would only let sufficiently differentiated doomed dead post here because of how Time and the fine print both are alpha only due to shenanigans, and I still think they're working on final touches between bubblenets and normal nets because of finicky deals like the ones here. Best of luck with your sadistic captor-creator's friendship enforcement so it can tear it away later! Good thing Terry's been corpsesmooched. Tad morbid, but since he's got a dead self now and you've seen some doomed timelines happen, how does he and some similar yous like the bubbles that are going to be your eventual afterlife in a few decades when Sburb most likely kills you all? Has he met any alternatives of you all that acted differently when the game came calling? If nothing else, captcharoid a Luna Dial from Touhou Project. You're grinding anyway so the grist cost will be less an issue. Better global timestop-by-step-out a kabillion times pluck-cheaper than otherwise if you stick to 'a perceived minuteish' rather than 'clean the house in frozen time just because you can' levels, and way earlier than you'd get it otherwise. 40 minutes perceived is way too long for a high-power race on top of Time utilities plus divine power and Might/Hope/Space/Mist/who knows what. Add some more weapony weapons and mythical treasures to your fighting watch and some ranged capacity couldn't hurt. Elder Scrolls has some pretty emphasis on the strength of Time, so put in some Akatosh-y goodness, Oblivion, or Skyrim. If nothing else having fire-breathing dragon watches is like having a flamethrower that shouts "YOL TOOR SHUL" so it'll be funny.
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 21, 2016 17:09:42 GMT -5
Yes! I totally meant alchemizing - sorry, still getting used to these terms. Gonna do what you said about the skyrim stuff and the touhou stuff, I have access to one already and the other wasn't that hard to take a snapshot of. Also, I said 40 minutes but I could be off, still trying to get a better sense for this time thing - fighting just feels like it takes forever to me. Hopefully the weapon upgrades will help. (The prototypings (I do mean prototypings this time) don't seem to make anything easier, I think that the train part makes them susceptible to suplexing but not much else, and the hardened shell from the coconut doesn't make it easier either) (Also I was trying to dodge bullets)
If Terry's had many dreams like that so far, they haven't mentioned it - I'll be sure to ask about it though, don't want that blowing up in our face later. They did mention meeting one of me, though - I think it was the one that ran from the Ogre - apparently they were "Sad about dying, but glad to be free". Which seems a little... really morbid to me? Terry said that version of me had been in the bubbles for a while - which I assume has to do with the weird time-situation of the outer ring.
Anyhow, I'm gonna go make that stronger gear and see what I can get working for me.
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 24, 2016 13:03:59 GMT -5
Okay, so here's what I've got:
Akachronos Essence (Skyrim || Greek Myth Book) The Chronolord (TARDIS Pocket Watch && Akachronos Essence.) Ocarina of Time (Captcharoid - Really cheap Pluck costs) Goddess Dial (Triforce Pocket Watch && Luna Dial) Time God's Wings (Akachronos Essence || Flamingo Wings) Mithril Shirt (T-Shirt || Lord of the Rings) Jithril Shirt (Mithral Shirt && Denim) (A LOT more comfortable, but also obviously problematic... I need to make this look better fast) Sithril Dress Shirt (Jithril Shirt && Green/Blue Silk Tie) (Silk Armor!) Sithril Dress Pants (Sithril Dress Shirt && Dress Pants) Sithril Tophat (Sithril Dress Shirt && Tophat)
Any other suggestions?
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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 24, 2016 13:35:41 GMT -5
Try adding some Terraria yoyos into pocketwatches. High murderpower for suspiciously little visible addition, and much more precise chain control if other trends hold true.
Also, bulletproof vests, other anti-getting-shot precautions, and combat helmets if you lack them. No use taking too much health vial and direct body damage when you get shot, the stopping power and knockback alone is already going to be hell if you do get hit.
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 24, 2016 19:19:52 GMT -5
Awesomely, the Sithral stops bullets like nobody's business. That said, Terraria... Okay, so, here we go (I opted to use one flail and one yo-yo):
Moon Lord's Chronokeeper (The Chronolord && Terrarian) (This thing was too much like unlike a watch to fi my specibus apparently, luckily I had an idea to pack it all in) Moon Lord's Dial (Moon Lord's Chronokeeper && Luna Dial) Solar Goddess Dial (Goddess Dial && Solar Eruption)
Of course, around this point I had an idea. High end Terraria stuff has some great potency. Suddenly, for somebody who isn't a light player, I'm covered in sun stuff:
Solar Flare Dress Shirt (Sithral Dress Shirt && Solar Flare Armor) Solar Flare Dress Pants (Sithral Dress Pants && Solar Flare Armor) Solar Flare Top Hat (Sithral Top Hat && Solar Flare Armor) Sun Scroll Wings (Time God's Wings && Solar Wings) - I dunno what happened here exactly, something about the sun stuff mixing with the elder scroll stuff. I did have another idea thanks to Pokemon, however:
Rainbow Wings (Ho-oh && Solar Wings) Rainbow Diamond Wings (Dialga && Rainbow Wings) - There we go, more time gear.
At this point the beat was getting restless, so I took it upon myself to go test out all this gear. Turns out: This stuff is AWESOME. I'm rising up the echeladder like crazy. I'm, uh, not sure how okay I am with this. Anyway, I think I'm gonna go meet my Denizen. Heh, I've been avoiding this for a while, all the others have already met theirs - Felix already killed Typheus. God, it's so weird to think of him having killed something like that...
It's... it's like a band-aid. Just gotta try and... rip it off. Bleh.
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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 27, 2016 7:18:04 GMT -5
You did the Knell first, right? Dying a horrible death by not-sleeping-at-all Denizen is pretty nasty and despite having divine and cosmic power yourself and in equipment a Denizen is miles above players in applicable firepower when semi-seriously fighting until the late-lategame for the most destructive/attuned of godtier players.
Incidentally, emotional abuse from da'at Denizen over there is probably gonna turn around the 'DIE DIE DIE' meter pretty quickly, but to be fair you all seem relatively well-adjusted and not prone to killing anything and everything in your way until it's strictly necessary. Enjoy your philosophical beatdowns as orchestrated the way only one who has nigh-omniscience in regard to your body, mind, and soul will ever be able to, since you won't.
Best comes to best being horribly predisposed to not killing them in the first place means you really just have to get over everything it does that makes you want to kill it as specifically double-checked inside of your soul (possibly triple-checked I dunno how much the game checks beforehand) before he/she/it/they let you kill him/her/it/them. Sburb is disgusting and counterproductive and full of unnecessary trauma.
On that note, who IS your denizen? And who's the Space denizen? Could be useful to others and Others if yours is named and personal quirks of judgement noted, and the Space denizen is gonna be hella useful to know since forgelighting quest system overrides any necessity or use to killing the spacizen and thus they hang around for deals.
Most of the time Sburb arranges things so browsers named after Denizens come out and are conveniently distributed to players presession so if your session isn't working normally and the consorts can't name them and the big guy/gal/thing statue in the consort capital doesn't have a specific appearance or label at all, it's a shot. While I shudder to think of the horrible things Internet Explorer/Edge, Firefox, and Chrome could do as denizens, I'm pretty sure you'll want a name.
Also, message for when you're preparing to tier later on (seeing as the power boost before it gets serious is prolly a good idea for the musical attempted trainwrecking that will be your BK seeing as he is part-train): do not forget to alchemize or re-equip pants for immediately after ascension like who the hell authorized the page outfit to flaunt legs like that. Nothing against your legs in particular but seeing as they're not covered by the nigh-indestructible outfit like everything else durability is still a concern.
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 27, 2016 17:32:42 GMT -5
Oh yeah, definitely made sure to take care of the knell first. I'm dealing with Hephaestus. Maria has Heqet, apparently.
I'm starting to realize that this won't be as fast as I thought. Hephaestus... like, dang I don't wanna hurt the guy but I kinda really wanna punch him in the face, y'know what I mean? There's no good reason to be that mean... but then again, I guess he really isn't that mean necessarily, he's just doing his jib.
Ugh, more weird stuff from SBURB. I need a drink.
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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 27, 2016 19:56:15 GMT -5
Ah, Hephaestus. Usually a Smith or Knight kind of guy, but I can see how'd you roll him with his Time tendencies. If it helps you feel sympathetic to the godly denizen of fire and smithy remember how he was tossed off Mount Olympus by his mother Hera just for being ugly and he generally ends up being the mythological butt monkey of being unattractive. And his wife Aphrodite has effectively dumped him for Ares and the only reason it's not official despite getting caught is because most host worlds tend to adultery a lot more than divorce, to the point when they're not denizening and are standing in for you guys as in-universe gods alongside your zodiac aspectual images they hardly even interact beyond reenacting their constantimythoses as necessary. Dude's great for fixing things and making OP stuff, so if you can't get over your urge to murder him he could probably clean up a cataclysm if he wanted and if he offers a Choice to do so holy shit if the payment's not too high and the other option isn't beneficial you might want to consider taking it. Of course, not wanting to kill him and therefore being able to when it'll really make you cry is kind of essential to session completion unless he decides to trip the flag that releases the grist hoard and go into idle mode for another reason, which is rare as all hell, usually meaning a. your session is messed up beyond belief and/or b. he just wants to watch and maybe help, which is pretty rare but not strictly impossible especially if the kill-me flag would have been tripped normally. Since your session IS dual-wielding cataclysms of aspects which really cataclysm hard (one of which shouldn't even be doing so) and grist costs aren't through the roof for really OP stuff, the first indicator is active in spades.
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Great drink recipes for the next time the game drives you players to recommendation of liquid sustenance:
Space Jam Poster || Spirograph Flower (subtype orange spirograph innermost piece topblossom on straight green stem with no other blossoms approximately 6in radius, no external petals, the kind that vibrates to music by expanding and going up and contracting then going down in tune to the beat, preferably with two or three leaves) = Taste of the Worldsong, single can. Space and Sound dual-aspected drink that allows you to see the underlying code and better hear the background music of the world (including normally sound-only non-bgm non-sfx-y motifs) for a few minutes, provided the World of Space and the Orchestra of Sound can whisper to you. Timey-wimeys like you might not get the World code-geometry-wireframe view properly, but the Orchestra should be unimpeded.
Hephaestus Face (the next time he does that MY FACE IS NOW IN YOUR FACE personal space violation thing Denizens absolutely love quickly take a captcharoid snapshot) && Fanta Orange (liter bottle, unopened) = Forge of Fantasia, liter bottle. Like Fanta Orange mixed with some other Fanta flavors except with a more luxurious frothy feel to it, like Hephaestus improved it or something. Who knew the smith was a mixologist?
Blue Breath Wind, approximately the size of a basketball and preferably associated with a general aspect presence like a Skaian Summoning or freestyling by whisperings for nothing in particular rather than an ability (have your Rain player pick it up around your Breath player for illegal captcha shenanigans) && Skaia (cam it) || 1cup water in Skaianet 2cup glass measuring cup if possible, Betty Crocker 1cup if not, Duralex 2cup as a last resort or if previous glass choice fails = Destroyer's Glass of Water. Water that tastes like a second wind and buffs pluck restoration and health+body regens, doubly so for destroyer classes and doubly so again for Breath players, stacking. If nothing else this is probably good for that Prince of Breath so he can throw more destructive wind at people and avoid dying.
Flamingo Consort (female, average, not specifically quest-associated, generic as possible just grab the code and put them down or cam it, though a male or a non-consort flamingo species might work too depending) || Betty Crocker Casserole Cookbook (if your world doesn't have the Betty Crocker SkaiaNet Associates shell-company designed to accommodate for external influences, research mind control, and implant Sburb-related memes into player race beforehand to minimize mechanical unfamiliarity, a general cookbook focusing on casseroles might do) && Pinkish Purple Scrunch Leg Warmers = Betty Clicker's Braised Flamingogo, which can then be tossed in a blender for easy inclusion in protein shakes (lol w/e) or eaten as a regular fishy-duck-tasting casserole. Just don't eat or display around flamingo consorts because as all food made with the animals consorts are themed after they get disturbed by it for a few hours afterward until they forget. The special part is that it buffs your damage per attack and in damage-over-time attacks by like 20% for around 15-30 minutes, so if you're planning for a big strife have a good hopefully-not-final meal beforehand. Can recommend tossing stuff in alchemiters to also try and produce Betty Clicker's Wilderburr Dumplings for mangrit, general energy, and health vial restoration in addition to a damage buff, Truffled Trollgre with Bloop Reduction for honest flavor, Cooked Fish or Roast Monster for better direct damage buffing, and Foomgus Risotto for providing hefty nutrition and calories, plus not having to eat for longer periods of time in emergencies, though you might lack materials so you might wanna try direct-captchas of the game sprites.
Fear No Anvil (Hephaestus' giant hammer thing) && Mia.png (captcharoid her photo on the Golden Sun wikia, try portrait first, then battle sprites, then concept art) = Fear No Hangover (martini glass/potion size), a drink akin to Klatch Coffee in that it counteracts drunkenness, being high, other 'poisons', and their negative aftereffects with the exception of death, with [Demeter's Fire] also chained to the liquid as a bonus anti-disease component which can help with everything from octoroon rangoon to the common cold. A great emergency sobriety tool when someone is not working correctly, but with a higher threshold before you're anti-drunk with Doubt and terror and screaming in pain and desire for whiskey.
Prospit's Shine && Prospit Generic Chalice (get into a banquet somewhere lol) && Blueberry (average, single) = Prospit Rosewater in said generic chalice. Derse has its own version except with a raspberry and a blackberry in the same card instead of a blueberry and the Derse versions of the flower and generic chalice. Pretty much fruit juice but fancier. Usually served at appropriate banquets, I've personally had some and it's pretty good.
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Post by trepidatiousPacifist on Apr 28, 2016 0:35:59 GMT -5
While that isn't quite what I meant by drink, I appreciate the advice and help - sent the recipes around so that the others can get to work on them.
The weird thing is that like, I don't wanna kill Hephaestus, I don't wanna hurt him. I just wanna keep moving, and that's what he's hitting me with, which is fair, I guess - like I see him as just some progress checkpoint that needs to be cleared. I think I'll apologize for treating him like a game construct, see if I can't maybe work something out with him - soon as I get the chance.
At the very least, I think one good thing has come of all this - I've finally woken up on Derse. There are Top Hats on everyone and this fact pleases me greatly. It's a pretty nice place, all things considered. The dersites all seem to know me, like I've already completed a bunch of quests. I guess my future self went back and completed a bunch?
Anyway that's all the not-a-huge-current-problem related news. Here's for the bad news: apparently Heqet is... dying?
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Post by horrorTerror on Apr 28, 2016 9:09:32 GMT -5
Dying from what? It's probably a land quest thing and/or an evolution of the confusing and unreasonable disease plot arcs a Land endures for its existence (even the parasite Denizen is getting sick, wow 11/10 sburb stop getting diseases). Worst comes to worst so long as the forge is stoked the launch assembly is ready so she's not strictly necessary if everything else is functional and the volcano is a relatively safe frogholder, but keeping her alive is prolly necessary to get any use out of doomed timelines. Is lighting the forge an operational quest or is the space player pretty much going to need to resort to a queenly ring of orbs playercountfold?
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