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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Jul 15, 2012 23:41:44 GMT -5
So yeah this is just a quick status update to make a note that my planet has been totally destroyed which was kind of supposed to happen? But it was supposed to be ME that did it and I have no idea even what the fuck. Also, my house is missing, along with my alchemiter and stuff. So I'm basically going into this confrontation with the glitched godhoodie on my back and a sylladex full of low-level bullshit. Consorts are all saying I did this, which I pretty clearly didn't. Is this the SK replacing me? Seriously fuck that guy, I am definitely going to kill him, this is a fact I am stating about what is certain to happen.
okay that's basically all sides the IRC is once again embroiled in troll romance drama so i guess i will step off the alien soap opera buzz for a while whilst i deal with actual important shit like who even cares about this guy who got amnesia about who he's in hatelove with or whatever this fucking game and its psychological breakdown inevitability mechanics and hug-healing and apparently everyone's mundane interpersonal conflicts is ultra serious business all of a sudden who even knows
oh and since this is pagetopping the third page here, you should probably edjicate yerself on the news of how my delirious plan went down at the bottom of the previous page. s'got pictures and everything even though i can't draw and they're shit
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Jul 17, 2012 21:59:37 GMT -5
Okay, since I last posted... everything's become clear. All the problems can be solved, they're within my reach. Hell, I've seen myself succeeding, haven't I? Which means, I suppose I have to succeed at my plan, now, or else I get shoved into a Beta timeline where I die horribly.
Anyway, while I strive to keep this log updated in more or less real time, I... didn't really have the opportunity to chronicle the whole thing. So here's the skinny: I'm gonna move into a more traditional narrative presentation for this one, for the sake of both keeping an accurate record of events and also blowing your fuckin' mind.
Here goes.
I showed up on LOSAP to find my house missing- along with most of my planet. Somebody had already completed Terraforming- I suspected my Saccharine Doppelganger "replacement", and it turns out I was right- for certain values of "right", which I'll explain later. Long story short, I'm just now realizing I've suffered from a critical lapse in analytical reasoning this whole time.
I stopped to bitch about it all in the IRC for a while, which would have been a mistake if doing otherwise hadn't been verboten vis-a-vis temporal predestination. Outraged and kinda desperate in basically every way, I took off to Skaia super fast, to have a final showdown with basically everybody.
I showed up a little late for the fight with the King- I arrived to find my entire team, plus the two candied interlopers, waiting for me on the platform to the Ultimate Reward. The Frog was growing in a reshapen Battlefield, squatting in its celestial pond. Meteors hung above Skaia, stopped in their tracks by the Black King's scepter, which Zero was holding along with the white counterpart. Aloice was there, draped in the regalia of a God Tier Seer of Time and sporting a pair of wings and antennae- leftovers from the prototyping she'd recovered from. By all accounts, this should have been our victory- one I'd missed participating in, but one I could still reap the rewards of.
I landed on the platform, in front of them all. Right there, the Smoke Knight asked me what I was doing there. I shouted at him, that I was here to leave this godforsaken session and start over. The Shadow King, he asked me why I should be allowed to claim the reward- if all I did was break the rules and destroy. I started to protest, to make a claim to my Role- but Zero stopped me. I got chewed out- he'd obviously rehearsed, I got a mouthful wrt not accepting help, killing Aloice, destroying Derse and triggering the reckoning- every stupid thing I'd done. Something felt wrong about it, though- loaded with false passion... definitely "rehearsed". As it happens, it was in fact all an act- or at least it will have been, presumably, if my plans work, which they have to, because time and... I mean, frig. Seriously I'll explain this all in a minute.
Anyway, I kind of blew up there. I started yelling things like "how dare you" and generally being unruly and violent. Butterfly just stood there, not saying anything, an amused smirk on her face. I think that's like half the reason I refused to back down. So in my fury, I drew my lightsaber thing against the Shadow King's neck. I asked him if he was ready to die, and he said "Die?" And then he calmly removed his helmet.
Before I could process what I'd seen, my blade was knocked away, swiftly displaced by the near-identical weapon of my doppelganger. The Smoke Knight lunged forward and destroyed my footing, humming the Batman theme. This is the part where I started to connect the dots, but it was too late, then. I struck and missed, and then there was a leg sweep and I was on the ground. He backed off for a moment, and I took the opportunity to try to put him on the defensive. With a scream, I charged at Zero and Aloice. I swept my blade, but they weren't where I thought they'd be. Instead, six identical Aloices, brandishing knives, hovered around me for a split second.
The split second was long enough for the Smoke Knight to say "If you'd like to exact a little revenge, now's the-" And then, she wasted no time in becoming a six-woman storm of bladed weaponry, and cut me to pieces. It hurt a lot worse than when the Smoke Knight killed me the first time- there were a lot more wounds, deeper and smaller, one of which went through my neck. Her copies vanished, to become each other, the usual Time player trick. The Smoke Knight lowered his hood, finally, and I saw his face.
My face.
Not candied or anything- he stood there next to Obselescence, the Shadow King, also shockingly unsaccharine.
Then he took his weapon and plunged it into my heart.
My vision faded, as I watched them open the door and file in, one by one. (With one exception, which I'll mention in a minute.) Zero and Aloice embraced as they walked into the darkness, perhaps hoping that they could move on together. I still don't know if our Reward works, or if I'll ever see them again. Obs and my copy- myself, were next. The last thing I saw, before my eyes closed, was Butterfly- she stood staring at the door, for a while, as if deciding whether to truly move on- and then passed through.
And then my run-through heart stopped beating, my eyes closed, and I died.
okay here is a super great place to have a cliffhanger, i bet you guys are super gonna love me for not telling you how i escaped the black clutches of mortality itself until i finish writing it down like i'm sure you'll be super stoked and not mad at all
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Jul 21, 2012 12:43:57 GMT -5
>Begin New Game +
Here we go. Here's what happened. After I died... well, it wasn't especially unique how it happened. My death was neither heroic, nor was it... just, for some reason. Even though I'd been breaking loads of rules and killing people and stuff. Maybe my roleplay coefficient helped, being a Prince (breaker) of Law? Or maybe the mortality system bent over backwards in service of time loops. It doesn't matter, because sometime after everyone left, I rose up in a technicolor lightshow of revival. Sitting on a deserted platform, with the door blown apart. On the ground next to me sat the twin scepters of the Black and White kings. The game was over- the Reckoning had been stopped, as it seemed. They'd won, and I was trapped here. And then, I got a message.
-- superFrequency [SF] began pestering spacetimeCounselor [SC] -- SF: hey. SF: what time is it? SC: what. SC: how are you SF: Forget that. There's more important business to worry about. SC: but SF: no buts, just look at what time it is. SF: I don't need to know, don't bother telling me. SF: just look at the clock and make a mental note. SC: uh okay it's 6:14 according to the uh SF: didn't I just say I didn't need to know? SC: okay so SF: I'm going to hang up soon. SF: You're going to figure out what you have to do, and then I'm never going to see you again. SF: So. SF: goodbye. SC: goodbye? SC: so like, wait, where are you, what am i supposed to do SF: fcagagfcdcfcagaascascasa -- superFrequency [SF] ceased pestering spacetimeCounselor [SC] --
She sounded pretty upset, you know? Who signs off with keyboard mashing, anyway? I tried pestering some more, but she didn't answer. So, I was left there to figure out what to do. There was nothing really left- I could hang around, inspect things and try to find answers- but with the space and time players gone, I was missing critical tools. So I switched into adventure game logic- checking my inventory, seeing what I could do with it to "advance the plot". As it happened, my inventory contained the scepters.
I don't know precisely -why- I knew what to do- maybe time putting ideas in my head- but I knew. I took off to the meteors above the veil, made a cursory check for one roughly matching the pattern of pockmarks I'd seen all over so many imps, found it almost immediately (thanks, predestination!), and raised the white scepter. I stood on the meteor as it began its descent towards the gates, fire streaking behind it, charring my god tier robes. As the rock shot through the defense portal, I could feel myself freed of... something, for a moment. Some hold the incipishere held over me, as a piece in its game. I wish, now, that I'd taken advantage of that- if it were possible, anyway, to deviate from the Alpha timeline outside of the session. Do doom mechanics work in real universes? Worth looking into.
But I could see, as I fell- the house it was targeting. On an unseasonably warm Texas evening- or was it just all the fire? It was Obselescence's house. I dove, flying ahead of the meteor and towards Obs. He was on the roof, with all his machines- his sprite had been prototyped with the dog, who saw the incoming danger. Canine loyalty, huh? It flew up to the meteor to attack it, and it came down, and Obs hit the floor, and... the meteor struck the sprite, and a blinding flash of light issued forth, and- no, it was supposed to destroy the house! I moved without thinking, producing an immense smoke cloud that engulfed the building. The meteor was gone, absorbed into the dogsprite- and the house was intact. Obs stood staring at me, unsure what was happening- and in a flash I saw his entry item and grabbed it. It was a cruxite replica of a king's scepter, which reminded me- I needed to put an end to the reckoning, and fast. So I took all three scepters, released the rending power of Sand, and shattered them, along with most of the roof.
So that's how I saved the world.
There was a long moment where everything went white, and we moved into the Medium. The Land of Peaks and Pages. Smoke continued to billow from the wreck of the house, so before Obs could ask questions I grabbed him and took off while we still had cover. Aloice, at this point, didn't know about all of this- she had to think we were dead.
So I took Obs to the closest cave I could find, filled him in on stuff, and then wasted some time arguing with you people about time travel and rationalism and the others and all that stuff when I should have been taking care of the Queen's ring. Here's where I go back to plain old logging what happens.
I'm the Smoke Knight, see. Obs has to be the Shadow King- "replacing" himself. And we need to get Zero and Aloice in on this, and manipulate my past self into doing everything he's done. I need to go back through this log, carefully make note of everything that happened that I couldn't explain, and explain them by becoming their cause. I need to fulfill a time loop that stretches across an entire session, with no timeclone warnings or special assistance- and make sure everything works out when it's supposed to work out.
but seriously how the HELL am i going to steal the black queen's ring anybody have any ideas
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Post by stanzicApparati on Jul 21, 2012 13:31:58 GMT -5
Negotiate! Convince her to take it off. Or get your Space player to swipe it, Moth should have plenty of useful skills for that.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Jul 21, 2012 14:56:43 GMT -5
The problem with that is that Butterfly doesn't exist until I bring her into the session, which requires me to get the ring and get control of the Midnight Crew and get them to take Past Me to the entry lab thing. I'm on Derse right now (Obs is busy with low-level consort quests) and I'm trying to track down some licorice scotty dogs somewhere. I estimate I've got three hours or so (not local to Sburb.org time) before HB needs to be there to kidnap my dreamself, and another six or seven before Jack needs to tell him that I have the ring- accurate or not. I've gotta take advantage of Sand and figure out when something I "know" about the first iteration of this session is true or something I manipulated myself into believing. Like the whole Saccharine Doppelganger thing- gotta get a rainbow version of my sword to convince him/me.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Jul 22, 2012 18:05:57 GMT -5
18:55 spacetimeCounselor hey guys uh 18:55 mislaidLullaby Hey 18:56 spacetimeCounselor i'm not gonna lie i am drawing a blank on how to nab the black queen's ring in a little over an hour 18:56 tenaciousTheseus Hello 18:56 spacetimeCounselor anybody have ideas 18:56 tenaciousTheseus Ambush 18:56 tenaciousTheseus cut it off her finger 18:56 whiteLimestone Ask her politely? 18:56 spacetimeCounselor it doesn't need to be reliable or safe on account of loop predestination, just... something where the causes and effects line up 18:56 spacetimeCounselor also what, can you really just ask 18:56 spacetimeCounselor is that allowed 18:57 whiteLimestone You can always /ask/ 18:57 spacetimeCounselor why wouldn't everyone just do that then 18:57 whiteLimestone Because her saying yes is the tricky part 18:57 whiteLimestone Asking is easy 18:58 specificNihilism hello 18:58 specificNihilism hm 18:58 tenaciousTheseus Maybe make a law 18:58 specificNihilism tell her that you need it for a time loop 18:58 specificNihilism and if you don't get it 18:58 specificNihilism everything in this timeline will cease to exist 18:58 specificNihilism because 18:58 specificNihilism well 18:58 specificNihilism it will 18:59 spacetimeCounselor hm yeah that sounds like a good idea actually 18:59 spacetimeCounselor and 18:59 spacetimeCounselor holy shit i just realized 18:59 mislaidLullaby Hm? 18:59 spacetimeCounselor in order to do that, i'll need pretty high carapace rep 18:59 tenaciousTheseus Probably 18:59 whiteLimestone How is it now? 19:00 tenaciousTheseus You need high rep to talk to her in the first place 19:00 spacetimeCounselor which i happen to HAVE, because the smoke knight ordered jack and his crew to fasttrack me through derse quests the first time around 19:00 spacetimeCounselor which didn't seem to have a purpose at the time 19:00 spacetimeCounselor but if carapace rep is an internal stat rather than a global variable... 19:01 spacetimeCounselor hahahaha wow okay thanks for the idea, loop invariant preassurance
Well, that works out really well, doesn't it? I was wondering why Jack's guys were speeding me through all those quests earlier. So... this is why? That is... really weird. Friggin' time, I mean come on show some fucking courtesy to cause and effect for once.
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Post by stanzicApparati on Jul 22, 2012 19:41:53 GMT -5
Cause and effect works just fine! You are the cause, that's all.
Seriously, I keep telling you: this will make way more sense when you've got Time instead of Law.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Jul 24, 2012 11:38:14 GMT -5
Well, against all odds, you guys were right. I got an audience with the Queen no problem (she didn't recognize me, thankfully- I took off my pendant first to trigger the ID bug) and let her know that I needed the ring in order to fulfill a stable time loop- technically true. She asked for proof, and I was all going to be like "uhhhhh well don't you trust me" but then sprite Aloice popped in from the future, showed her the ring, gave me a thumbs up and disappeared. One more thing to make sure I "cause" later on.
Incidentally, if a bowling ball appears out of thin air, and then you send it back in time to when it appeared out of thin air, where'd the bowling ball come from? Food for thought, which people seem to stubbornly refuse to do in this friggin' game.
So anyway, the queen gave me the Ring, and then (in order to establish the obvious enmity she displayed towards me (my current/future self) to my past self, I grabbed her and threw her out the window. Mean? Yes. Probably what I would have done anyway? Yes. Carapace people, or at least the queen, are surprisingly lightweight!
So yeah, that was pretty anti-fucking-climactic. I thought I was gonna get to use some fancy Knave of Sand/Law (Knave of Smoke?) powers or conspire with Jack or something, but it turns out time travel makes things too easy. buhhhhh
{~40 mins later} Sitting down with Jack and the boys. They're pretty much in on the plan- I did get stabbed and it did hurt like a motherfucker (are there ANY consistent rules for when you get injured and when it just shifts your gel bar? adding to list of research topics). But we cool, now, we cool. First thing we did was nab Obs' dreamself from the tower and have CD burn it to the ground- almost forgot about that one, but it needed a cause. HB's just leaving now, I told him where to wait and it looks like the bogus Procession should be coming his way in 15-20 minutes. I'd like to tier Obs now, but even if it weren't super risky for poorly defined reasons, his dreamself needs to be there when SC-1 arrives at the crypt. DD's in charge of event planning- grabbing my dreamself loads of carapace rep until SC-1 unites with him.
so yeah pretty much done here, now i need to
-officially get in cahoots with the team -perform the "duty" of bringing Butterfly into her entry room -beat myself within an inch of my life on LOCAH -send aloice back to confirm the ring loop with the queen -give sfreq the ring to give to me on LOTAF -terraform my planet somehow, during the ~2 hours i'm away doing the jack reckoning thing -orchestrate the evacuation of derse -learn the scary mind move with obs and kill jackwraith -be in cahoots with butterfly to speed everyone through their important quests before the game ends -defeat the black king -kill myself -leave through the reward door -also maybe some other things, i still need to double check
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 3, 2012 22:18:30 GMT -5
Hueh. Okay, so I swapped my chumhandle to smokeKnight and pestered Zero. I let him in on the basics of the time loop, and told him not to let PSC know. Him and Aloice are on their way to LOPAP to rendezvous with us, and I'll have to tell him to have an automail hand ready for PSC- I should have timestamped better, but I should be getting my hand bit off soon.
Here's the alchemy Obs and I did, ignoring useless results (of which there are many; ignore all the weird shit that looks like Goron bondage gear on the floor):
Baseball cap && Colander Makes a metal helmet sort of thing- not especially useful in and of itself.
Helmet cap || Ski mask A rudimentary kettle helm, going over the face.
Kettle helm && Obsidian chunk I have a few rocks from when I was into geology as a kid, and this seemed to do the trick- you get a black, organic-looking carapace kettle helm thing.
Shoulder pads && Carpet fringe Ripped off the edge of a throw rug and alchemized it with some kinda sports thing Obs had in his garage, to make some serviceable epaulettes.
Shadow King helm || Epaulettes Obsidiany shoulder armor, consistent with the Shadow King's outfit.
Shadow King helm || Kneepads Shadow King kneepads. Pretty straightforward.
Obsidian chunk && Jeans and cashmere sweater in the same captchalogue card as an "outfit" Appropriately menacing garments that still maintain freedom of movement. Armorcrafting is fun!
Skittles || Starry Bullshit Saber A variant of the saber, appropriately rainbowy, named "Lay waste to the rainbow". Sburb, stop trying to make me impressed, procedurally generated puns are almost a waste of unimaginable deific power.
So that's the Shadow King disguise done (and I think it actually confers some pretty boss defensive advantages, idk if Sburb was influenced by sandbox games like minecraft and terraria but obsidian seems like way tougher than it actually is). Myself, the Knave of Smoke god tier thing (that is totally an actual role now, because I say it is) was charred enough already- I just adjusted the hood and ripped it in a few places to make it a little less recognizable. That's it for our disguises, I think- we'll need to work out that scary-as-fuck attack on Jack, and maybe rehearse the faux-medieval drivel we're supposed to dump on PSC when I cut him to ribbons.
{later, on Derse} CD's scouted the probable location of the Space Player lab according to my directions- turns out the reason the shuttle ride was so long was... well, okay- I guess there's like, other rings besides the Furthest one. There's sort of an... orbital detour, where the slow orbit of the asteroid belt seems to divert into nothingness. Zero got him and Aloice wrapped up in some trouble on LOCAF, with some different colored turtles that are trying to destroy land features? I don't even know, but that means no Time player to navigate crazy-space. They've detected the spatial anomaly and are trying to reverse the subspace polarity (since when did feudalistic alien moon gangsters talk like they were on Star Trek?)- I'm gonna try a suite of Sand powers to see if I can detect the... rip in the fabric of reality or whatever, space is weird.
{in the veil} So, like... okay. I don't get this. You can see... like, meteors are disappearing into what seems to be thin air, and appearing after a certain amount of time (which appears to vary) out the other side of the plane of thin air they disappeared into. I can't move through it, and trying to hold onto a meteor as it goes through is looking more and more like a bad idea- objects kinda get pushed off, like the invisible wall in space is meteor-permeable only. Trying to grab it will probably just crunch my fingers, or worse. I'm gonna wait for one to float by that has a building on it- toss a bismuth chunk inside and see if it goes through, or if it gets pushed through the building wall, or if it brings the meteor to a halt.
The Summonings on Zero's land were a little more straightforward, you know. Just like, little craters where the sand slid down the edges. They'd... disappear after a while, the sand would collapse and you'd find a new one somewhere nearby- but never in the first place you looked. And you just sit there and think about shit breaking? That's what I did, anyway. I guess the higher-level Sand abilities are simpler, since [Moonshatter] was one of the first things I figured out and "huge emotion-fueled indiscriminate blast radius" seems cool enough for me. I also got some other high level abilities- [Killed by BREAK], [Break Shot] (totes got some arrows so not that useless so long as i can aim), [Truth, For Real], etc- if it's in no way actually sneaky I can probably pull it off. Which means... y'know, I'm terrible at Sand, if I know anything about it.
Anyway. A [Break Shot] arrow went straight through, so I pulled kind of a sneaky trick. Tied it to a length of rope (ALWAYS CARRY ROPE, this is like #1 advice for all sburb players) and held on, so that I could let go if un-"enchanted" stuff got filtered out. Kind of surprised that worked, but I guess I'll have to get used to the universe bending over backwards to make things easy for me. The alpha timeline is the only one in which I make the right choices in time, after all.
Inside the rift is like... well, it's indistinguishable from the outside, except that... when you look off into the distance, it kind of feels like... like looking into two back to back mirrors and looking into slightly skewed, segmented infinity? Only it's all just blackness and the occasional star/glowing-speck-that-simulates-star-ambience. But you can still... tell, you know?
The important part is that there's a bunch of meteors that aren't part of the orbital... "current" thing. Just sort of free-floating? My theory's that they tried to "remove" these from the game by a hack script that pulls them out of the veil rotation and hides them in a little blocked-off pocket dimension, but... I dunno, it's weird, it could be anything. Point is there's a bunch of lab-seeded meteors hidden in here, and yeah I found the Entry Lab or whatever it is.
I've got a few hours before I'm supposed to arrive- DD should be picking up my dreamself soon after... a ballroom quest, if I remember correctly. Dreamself memories are still hazy, but DD got really ticked off at some lady called the Dazzling Debutante. Do they have a history, maybe? Who even knows with NPCs. Anyway, I'll take a look at the machinery, take some notes, and then Moonshatter the place. See you guys in a bit.
Loop stability notes: -Work out super-attack (unite synchronization?) with Obs -Find a way to get the shuttle in here without PSC noticing
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 4, 2012 20:34:01 GMT -5
So here's the terminal- like you can see, it's not smashed up anymore. The green light's red, the yellow moon is gray, and there's some stuff different with the console. The screen's all staticy instead of broken, and all.
So now the gray frog is green and the red frog is gray, the thing hasn't been turned yet, and that's about it.
This is a weird one- it looks like a replica of the bed in Butterfly's little generic entry bedroom, only the lights on the bedposts are green and turned off instead of red and glowing. And it's just here in the middle of the lab, whatchoo gonna do. There's a bunch of densely packed wires underneath it and I'm just gonna leave it alone unless a Duty calls.
Here's the vats- they line all the walls in these groups of four. Except for the one pictured, the rest of them all appear to be like the first one shown. Their indicator light is off and their green/red readout thing is red, and they're fulla slime. This one, though... you've got one of them that's full of stuff only the readout's green, one that's empty and has a green readout, and one that's slowly being filled up with goop- the readout's red and the indicator light is blinking brightly.
Here's the key, DD found it in the Queen's collection of Important Shit She Keeps.
so okay i just inserted it and turned the thingy, then hit the button. lessee what happens okay the screen turns on and shows bfly... inside this lab. Like, the one I'm standing in right now, where she clearly isn't. The fuck??? When was this? She's sleeping on the bed that's here, and... all the vats in the background are filling with slime. I can't see the terminal from this camera angle. Picture-in-picture pops up, showing the prepared entry room... and then lab!Butterfly flashes white and vanishes, and then reappears in the picture-in-picture wearing gray dream moon clothes. The console shows the green frog go gray and the gray light up green, and the red light up top switching to green. On-screen, the lights in the room (the lab she was in, identical to this one) go dim, and everything shuts off. And then the smaller picture- a live feed of the entry room, I think- fills the screen.
So was that it? Like, I think right now what I'd ordinarily go do is find my way into the entry room and go through the process, but... hm. For some reason, the time loop says my past self has to do that. I guess because... if I hadn't done it, I wouldn't have known about the lab in the first place, and wouldn't have gone to go set it up? But that just raises the question of why I didn't do all this back then... except because it was already done for me, and the lab was destroyed. By me.
seriously you guys time travel is the worst.
Looking back over Bfly logs, I'm gonna need to add to my list of loop stuff: -make sure she tiers and allies with DM early -have her trick Sfreq into initiating the Scratch (why? time loop and as far as i can tell literally no other reason) -maybe remind her to get into that huge emotional tragic IRC debacle? dunno if she'd do it anyway.
Oh and super cool thing: Zero does pixelart and stuff, and he totally did an artist's rendition of an imp he faced. Remember how I tried to draw one and it looked like balls warmed over? Well Zero is an actual artist so there you go. The question is, when the hell did he spend time drawing this instead of actually getting things done? We got a schedule to keep, man!
but yeah as cool as this is it aint really an imp, has he even seen one before??? where's the single solid color of skin and dumb-lookin toothy maw and penchant for messing with your shit? and for that matter, how does it steal your things with boxing gloves on???
le sigh
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Post by stanzicApparati on Aug 5, 2012 6:14:49 GMT -5
seriously you guys time travel is the worst.
Seriously, dude - it'll make complete sense once you're Time instead of Law. Your Aspect's all wrong for trying to understand Weird Time Shit right now, that's all.
(Also, time travel is awesome, shut up.)
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Aug 5, 2012 6:20:28 GMT -5
No, he's right, time travel sucks. Ignoring Sburb's contribution to it, which involves dead bodies and memories of dying, it's way too confusing trying to do anything or even trying to speak about it.
Also, obsidian is a really hard substance, even outside Minecraft. Sharper than steel, if easier to dull.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 5, 2012 13:01:25 GMT -5
While I'd ordinarily be skeptical of the claim that being assigned a certain aspect would improve my mental comprehension of temporal mechanics, there's enough creepy-ass Orwellian mind-alteration shit in Sburb for that to not really surprise me. Seriously, though, human decision-making is incapable of necessarily initializing a stable loop- it's the game that decides whether any given loop appears, even if it draws on your cognition to fill in causal gaps.
And yo dude obsidian's only 5.5 on the mineral hardness scale max; its crystal structure allows it to form a really sharp edge but like you say it dulls super easy, it's not like impervious-type magic rock like Sburb thinks it is. Which begs the question- does the game actually alter its molecular structure, or does it just apply some abstract "hardness" attribute? Has anyone actually studied Sburb's phenomena at the molecular level? Worth looking into.
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Aug 5, 2012 13:18:24 GMT -5
While examining it on a molecular level would be interesting, there's a major barrier in the way. Namely, none of us have the first clue on how to do that. We need someone with a doctorate in molecular structure or something. I mean, I didn't even start high school.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 5, 2012 20:34:15 GMT -5
come on can you seriously not just alchemize a microscope and tab over to wikipedia, bein' a scientist oughta be easy in this friggin game.
Anyway, I've got some free time before I've got an appointment to murder the fuck out of myself on LOCAS. I'm gonna head back to LOPAP and meet up with the gang, and maybe... hang on
-- smokeKnight [SK] began pestering astralLepidoptera [AL] -- SK: hey butterfly SK: youre gonna wake up soon and read this message, and its important that you do what it says SK: you dont know me yet but you will later SK: time shit, you know SK: here's the thing: the whole session's part of this huge friggin time loop SK: there's a lot of stuff you gotta do for timeline integrity, trust me on this SK: my past self goes by the handle spacetimeCounselor and you're gonna need to avoid telling him any of this SK: since i was totally ignorant back then about basically everything, you can't give him any info without shunting us into a beta SK: anyway here's a checklist of stuff you gotta do SK: 1. when you wake up, my dreamself's gonna be standing there- be sure to push him out the window if you haven't already done that, idk whether to attribute that to you being crazy but it doesn't hurt to play it safe SK: actually that reminds me i gotta tell jack's crew to figure a way to get him in and out of the lab SK: 2. i know you've got this whole speedrunning thing with dancemaster maniacal or whatever his name's been, and you've got the a-ok for that SK: probably best to avoid interfering with other peoples planets, but you can go ahead and god tier yourself, finish all your quests, breed the frogs, do whatever to the heart of the land- just run anything else by me SK: for loop integrity and all SK: otherwise get all that out of the way as fast as possible SK: 3. pester superFrequency and convince her to initiate the Scratch- tell her it's just an ordinary reset SK: idk why this is necessary per se but it happened/happens so go for it SK: 4. there's this thing later where you get into this emotional clusterfuck with people on the sburb.org IRC channel #ultimatereward, just be sure to make an appearance SK: 5. i am a TERRIFIC dancer no matter what anyone says SK: so keep that the fuck in mind SK: that's everything imperative i think, drop me a line when you wake up if you want to talk specifics SK: this session gets hella accelerated, so we'll need your help speedrunning some stuff SK: })-o-({ later -- smokeKnight [SK] ceased pestering astralLepidoptera [AL] --
That's bfly... more or less taken care of, I think? Leastways she knows generally what to do, and I think I can rely on the loop for the rest.
{hour later, maybe?} Okay, so we all met up in person at it pretty much kicked ass. Except for sfreq, she still doesn't trust me and I doubt she'd trust a future time clone me. I'll just let her... do whatever her thing is. Anyway yeah we had ourselves a meetup and I showed them most of the log. I couldn't really keep them in the dark totally about the killing-Aloice thing- I cut out the events in particular, and told them that they needed to trust me that their ignorance was important to the timeline. I think they bought it, even if that's just Sand boosting my Bluff roll. I'll show them everything after the whole ascension debacle later. And. You know. Maybe they'll forgive me.
Obs and I are off to grind some co-op dungeons. We were gonna do maturity quests, but decided against it since we don't really have time to play the game normally. MeGaLoVania by necessity, gotta speedrun and sequence break our way to power. I'm thinking we'll just have to let Butterfly breed the frog real fast and then unload superpowers on the Black King. We really don't have time for the whole month-long series of maturities and denizen shit and terraforming and fuck knows what else- just gotta cover the crucial bases. We'll just scour the land for important quest artifacts and track down the quest bed, you know?
and don't nobody tell me to try to do this the "right" way because HEY the right way would kill us all remember?
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