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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 6, 2012 0:24:55 GMT -5
Hoo, okay. Law/Mind dungeon, let's do this. Either this is really low-level or really plot-important for LOPAP because there were practically no entry requirements. Peaks and Pages is like... well, there's mountains everywhere, and there's these huge books sort of embedded in the sides. Like, really huge, around as long as a football field on average. The pages are all written in consort-pictogram-ese, though, and considering their abundance I'm doubting they're particularly important. Could be wrong, but I'm not here to investigate Land mysteries, as much as I'd like to. Anyway we found this dungeon underneath a crease in one of the larger sheets. Gonna start mapping this out.
-we're in this big entrance room with two doors, and like... this big origami statue of what i think is supposed to be obs. i think the game knew about his outfit and generated land mythology accordingly? the question "what if we had crafted a different getup" only makes sense if you're not talking about sburb because PREDESTINATION WHOOPS -okay this room is way too fucking full of giant snake-bee-castle monsters let's try the other door -there's this long hallway with lots of intricate tile work- different shapes and glyphs and stuff everywhere, hopefully not an indiana jones-style pressure plate puzzle. the noticable thing is the door with the huge bolt on it, and the... keyhole-shaped things on the walls. okay we tried picking the... locks but that didn't work, the door's not opening so i guess we...
-okay we can kind of stay right inside the doorway here and none of the mobs will aggro- although we're not attacking yet. obs is using [Domino Climb] to run some combat scenarios but that's like the low-level, vaguer version of [Neural Climb] so no carefully orchestrated murder dances for us yet. These enemies look really high level, I can see some Lichs in there I think. There's some good roleplay here for him as a Ward since i'm god tier and he's fresh off the apocalypse boat, so as long as we survive it'll be exp and coefficient city for him. -[Domino Climb] scenarios revealed that the basilisks get their aggro reset when they splash into the shallow pool in the middle of the room, so what i'm doing right now is hanging from the ceiling in the middle with my motor pole and drawing their fire with [Stop In the Name of the Law]- it doesn't do damage (or anything to anyone not a law-abiding moon kingdom citizen) but it draws them into the water, which makes them forget that obs is cherry tapping them with [Spark of Inspiration], the basic lightning ability. Dunno how much health they have but exploiting the AI is pretty easy. -OW FRIG LICHS THROW FIREBALLS FRIG OW -okay so obs got sick of the grind on these guys and electrocuted the pool while the monsters were in it, which was pretty fuckin' effective actually. the lichs were trickier, i had to use my smoky mist trick (which is super-costly on Pluck) to take them out in close combat using the Unreasonable Dangerous Bow, which given its current damage output is in dire need of an upgrade. Bismuth and shitty consort jewelery from my land seem to be really good alchemy reagents for that but we'll see.
-there was a red crystal in the pool that lit up when obs fried everything, he said he had a feeling that it was important. i asked why he had that feeling and he said the game actually noticeably gave him that feeling so there we go. red things are usually important anyway so whatever. -found a little room with a chest of boondollars. woo! -oh what the hell is this thing? it's like a huge circuit board full of pegs and wires and resistors and stuff, and switches on the walls and outputs and... i mean it's clearly a Mind puzzle -Okay, so. There's the six alcoves with the electric fields surrounding them, and the generator in the middle connected to this oversized soldering deck thing. [Spark of Inspiration] just makes the arc fields flicker, but when applied to certain locations on the super complicated circuit it makes these... resistor switches light up, which causes the generator to rotate and output pulses to different locations? We turned off one of the fields by keeping the power flow from reaching certain areas and then reconnecting wires in the dead zones- but it was a dead end alcove. I think our goal is either the red crystal in Alcove 2, or the blue switchboard thing in Alcove 3. -it's worth mentioning that these puzzles run on "hollywood electricity" where the power flow is visible as sparks running along the metal trails, instead of being really fast and invisible like actual electricity is. but anyway we grabbed the second red crystal and connected a wire to the blue switchboard and that was it, pretty much. -oh for fuck's sake this room is just another one of these, let's try something else -fought a bunch of drakes and found a cool weapon for obs in a little nook. Pretty sweet! -but at the end of the trail there's just another friggin resistor puzzle room -same for the last remaining path, ugh before we deal with the rest of these we're gonna see if there's anything else we're missing
-found a secret passageway in the main room- only it leads to a den of lichs and shadowy imperceptible giant monsters and we're gonna hold off on that. There's even a huge boonbuck hoard visible in the back of the secret room which is like, obvious code for "this is a TRAP". Maybe we'll Ackbar this thing later if we're low on funds.
friiiiiiiig okay i've basically mapped everything out so far, no idea where we're going from here. Can't find any keys, although I think the crystals are connected to those, but there aren't enough anyway. Probably. There's "electricity" running along some wires between the tiles in the locked door room now, but not much else has changed. Gonna take a break now and post this, in case anyone's familiar with this dungeon layout.
e: oh hey, page four! is anyone else as diligent-about-logging-their-adventure/egocentric as i am? i doubt it.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 8, 2012 22:17:30 GMT -5
Okay, on puzzle 2 we found a green crystal, which supports the relationship between keys and crystals I think? The blue switchboard was wide open (I think because it was connected to the previous one?) so we hooked that up and routed the generator to just loop its power around in an empty alcove so we could get the crystal. okay now this one's just mean i mean if you route the power north/south it turns on the east/west circuits and if you route it east/west it turns on north/south and there's no fifth or sixth place to redirect to god damn it. OW FUCK got 'lectrocuted a lot just now. maybe it's like, we need to switch to these slower resistors? and keep the pulse over in the relay long enough to put the free resistor between north/west? SHIT ON A SANDWICH that hurt, we were so close, let's try again and use the slow resistor on the FUUUUUUCKING OW one more time, okay it's going annnffhdshfghsffdhghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
okay how about we come back to this one later.
{} After tooling around for a while and solving that puzzle (because we had nothing better to do and a surplus of brain cells to fry), we found a trapdoor in the entry hallway place, underneath the origami Shadow King. It's darker down here, with tons of drakes and imps instead of the less numerous, higher-level enemies up top. The counterpart to the lich-infested secret room only had a couple of ogres, who couldn't really move around too well what with the low ceiling. Found a glowing book written in consortese, so Obs grabbed that even though we're probably not gonna really get involved with little consort quests much. Also a load of boonbucks.
okay so this is like... a mirrored version of the upstairs floor, right? But the big apoxial ebonpyre room had tons and tons of imps and drakes- [Arcade Thunder] has a kickass chain-lightning effect which zaps enemies near the target, and the targets near them... basically perfect for clearing out a room densely packed with low-level mooks. There's this funny smell in the air after Obs roasted so many dudes. so instead of a pool there's like... a mirror? not sure what this is for TURNS OUT, it was for totally smashing because there was a crystal under there. I went ahead and dropped from the ceiling through the thing (ow) because yknow breaking things (being a prince, being part sand) and accumulating seven years of bad luck (being a law player), I dunno I figured probably a lot of roleplay bonus. derp little alcove's got another crystal just sitting here, that was eas FUCKKKKK ow okay being on fire really hurts even when it's just draining your gel bar thingy; lichs are sneaky and also the worst sometimes it's easy to forget my lightsaber is actually just a really sharp bow with no string and fruity sparkles all around it, but you remember that kind of thing when you hit something with the flat of it and it just goes TWAAAAANG and rebounds into your face
Okay, so the locked door counterpart doesn't have any keyholes- there's just these frames in the doorways with glowy lines leading to the lock. idk what the frames are made of, it kind of looks like... book binding? Also, there's... podiums? With little gavels on them? what the hell is this i dont even -i think we maybe figured this out- there's this other room fulla loot and basilisks (now dead basilisks) and more podium things which glowed, and when i pound the gavel thing the hallway podiums glow, and then you pound those to open and close the frames. And when all the frames are closed you can hear the locked door open, but then you can't go in??? okay the solution we figured was just obs would go in and then i'd close the doors and he'd go in to the place
that happened, i basically just sat around a lot while obs solved some more electricity puzzles and got a red crystal? Well I mean I helped, I gave him a Vow that empowered his puzzle solving if he went it alone (which he had to do anyway but you take what you can get); i don't think it worked super well because i heard a lot of zapping and screaming and his hair was standing on end when he came out, but whatever then we updated the map here ygo:
So now we're in the lock room and the floor is all tingly with electric current. And we have four of each color crystal, despite the keyholes being for keys, and not crystals. Kinda stuck again, any ideas for what we're even supposed to do here?
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 11, 2012 0:16:51 GMT -5
okay so we finished the dungeon, imma go into detail later about how we fought a giant mercury octopus and explored some twisty of mazes passages little and wrecked Condemnator HIVOLTAGE and here is a map preview okay okay
but i mean
i was just on IRC and people are claiming there's a fucking AFTERLIFE in this game like apparently the super dangerous tentacle demons run some bubbles out in space that people go to when they die and/or sleep? so THAT IS A HUGE DEAL. I AM GOING TO SLEEP RIGHT NOW AND SEE THIS. And also because I thought I didn't need to sleep as a god tier but actually I'm mega tired and I do? But yeah this changes EVERYTHING and I mean holy shit if there's an afterlife then maybe we can like, I dunno, get everyone OUT OF IT? That would be great, let's all do this.
Other things of note: trolls have biotechnology that allows them to directly interface with machines, which is something I need to get my hands on as soon as possible because DAMN that's cool; you need both a time and space player to navigate the furthest ring (which i thought you weren't supposed to do anyway because of others???) and someone said if I wanted to do that I'd have to be both space and time at the SAME TIME and i'm like
really you say both at the same time well shit there's no method i've discovered for doing anything like THAT so i guess i am totally out of luck there even if i am something like a space-time counselor
oh wait
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Post by stanzicApparati on Aug 11, 2012 11:58:07 GMT -5
but i mean
i was just on IRC and people are claiming there's a fucking AFTERLIFE in this game like apparently the super dangerous tentacle demons run some bubbles out in space that people go to when they die and/or sleep? so THAT IS A HUGE DEAL. I AM GOING TO SLEEP RIGHT NOW AND SEE THIS. And also because I thought I didn't need to sleep as a god tier but actually I'm mega tired and I do? But yeah this changes EVERYTHING and I mean holy shit if there's an afterlife then maybe we can like, I dunno, get everyone OUT OF IT? That would be great, let's all do this.
Other things of note: trolls have biotechnology that allows them to directly interface with machines, which is something I need to get my hands on as soon as possible because DAMN that's cool; you need both a time and space player to navigate the furthest ring (which i thought you weren't supposed to do anyway because of others???) and someone said if I wanted to do that I'd have to be both space and time at the SAME TIME and i'm like
really you say both at the same time well shit there's no method i've discovered for doing anything like THAT so i guess i am totally out of luck there even if i am something like a space-time counselor
oh wait No, I said that you'd probably need to be Space and Time simultaneously to understand Paradox Space (that or be Pipes - one of the two), which isn't the same thing as navigating the Ring. Time is helpful for Ring navigation but it's doable without it, I think; you really don't want to be going out there alone if you're Space, though. It just won't end well; the Others don't like Space players.
Also, yes. We have biotech. I'm not sure how compatible it'd be with humans or if it'd even be something you could survive plugging yourself into. You guys kind of...have a low tolerance for blood loss, I think.
I'm not sure there's any means of getting people out of the bubbles if they're dead. Not a way that they'd survive, anyways. I mean, how would they exist outside the bubbles? Cold, hard Paradox Space is something only godtiers can survive, I think. And yes, you still need to sleep even if you're godtier. We get a boost to the stat that lets you stay awake longer, I think - but that just increases how long you can stay awake without feeling exhausted; it doesn't keep you from getting tired eventually.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 18, 2012 1:39:08 GMT -5
Bluh. Okay. I said I was going to go into detail about how I fought those huge things and beat the dungeon, but it turns out: that is BORING. The keys were a dumb magic thing, the octopus was harder than the boss who was a pushover, and Sburb blatantly cheats with mazes. Like, the map isn't even a little reflective of whatever the fuck, except for the part where I got stuck in a place with no exit or entrance somehow. Seriously what the hell even. Here's the map if you care at all.
What is a whole lot more interesting, is the stuff that's happened since then. It's like, man, all this stuff! It just keeps happening, I am getting shit done. Like, I kept being all like "oh man, I should tell people about this, but I have to finish the dungeon log first, aaaaagh" and more and more stuff happened and it built up and started getting intimidating.
First thing more interesting than the dungeon: the nap I took immediately afterwards. Yes, here, even being unconscious is more fun than playing the game. Or, like...
See, what happened was. I fell asleep, like you do. Took a while, but I was exhausted and battered from fighting (as mentioned) a giant octopus made of mercury (kinda). Anyway. I hit the hay, and at first it's like "what the hell, i thought i didn't wake up on derse anymore" because I was on Derse. But then it was all deserted? And then... I showed up. Some dude who looked exactly like me, only his eyes were a creepy blank white. He started moving his mouth, but whenever he talked, this sort of burbling sound from nowhere drowned out what he was saying. And then he started yelling at the sky, which started yelling back, and then he looked at me and ran up and punched me square in the jaw. So, ow. And then more people came out, from the shadows and the buildings and stuff. Only it wasn't all Derse, suddenly- the landscape started shifting and acting all weird, I didn't recognize much. Anyway, these people all kind of started to dream-lynch me. There was a dead Obs and a few more dead mes and some kind of weird troll-human hybrid-looking chick and a guy with some kind of computer monitor for a face and a person of indeterminate sex wearing some goofy-ass circus getup and a whole bunch of other people I didn't recognize. All with blank eyes, attacking me and screaming at me in words I couldn't hear over the dark bubbling sound that seemed to come from all around. I... can't remember if it actually hurt- I remember feeling distressed but most sensation is kind of a blur.
The mob finished beating me, and then one of the dead mes had this look of realization and motioned a guy in gray god tier pajamas to do some sparkly thing. The burbling stopped, and the me said "Do you know what you've done?" And I tried to form words, but idk I guess they collapsed my throat or something? Then he asked "Oh, right. Do you know what you're going to do, then?" Before I could wonder what kind of question is that, why would I know what I'm going to do, a bunch of tentacles shot out from nowhere and started dragging me away, and some of them started to shout "No!" but then there was a loud loud noise and I woke up.
So uh.
Yeah. I guess the afterlife hates me. For some reason.
Anyway! More things I did, which aren't as scary or portentous. After I woke up, I left Obs to fly solo for a while so I could deal with the Midnight Crew. Which is what Jack and the boys have taken to calling themselves I guess. Anyway, I did some kind of aspecty thing with Law and Sand (mostly sand i think? idk) to hold open the meteor portal tear thingy. Like, I cut it open and restricted it from closing, although I went through several variations on the theme before finding something that works. PSC shouldn't notice there's even anything there.
The other thing I did was kill myself.
You know, back on LOCAS, when the Smoke Knight cut me to ribbons? That part. I gave the word to Zero to head for his tree-stump Pinnacle, while Obs and I waited at the crater to deal with Past Me. The exchange went something like this:
Me: hey dude this guy's the shadow king check him out PSC: what the fuck, who are you Me: oh i work for this guy PSC: why are you talking like a shit fantasy novel Me: ha ha Obs: yo you can tell him who you are Me: yeah yeah i'm the smoke knight i work for him PSC: argrhhhslbbable i'm an idiot who can't fucking see how anything adds up and i don't understand anything Me: p much Obs: yup Me: dude i'm basically you, like the new you; listen, do you have any idea how much you suck PSC: wtf no Obs: okay this is dumb kill him now Me: yeah sure PSC: aw what no a bloo bloo bloo i'm a whining crybaby
And then we fought and I was hells of better than him at swords on account of basically being exactly better than him definitively, and made him bleed a lot. In retrospect, I was being kinda mean. Or like, in forethinking antiretrospect, because I KNEW I was being mean because I remember it hurting like hell. But yeah I just didn't care? Whatever.
also there was um drama with zero and aloice like yknow with the tricking them into getting her killed and stuff and i explained it but they were kind of mad still and there were some personal ISSUES that you know what this isn't the place for long story short, they're in on this 100% now, they've both got access to the entirety of this log. And of course it turns out Zero did read the Glitch FAQ and knew more than he was letting on, but yknow that's Sand for you. Anyway there's still some stuff to do with Butterfly and the boys on Derse, and making sure Supes and PSC don't cross paths until later. Aloice went and did the thing with the ring, and I guess she can go get the got tiger now or whatever the meme is. I just need to double check to make sure there's nothing left for her sprite form to do, and stuff.
so YEAH problems are getting solved, things are moving forward, and there's not a whole lot left to bother recording you know
i'll just keep you guys posted if anything big comes up; i've p much got things under control now
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 20, 2012 2:15:43 GMT -5
Okay, IRC. Some of you guys have been a big help, and a lot more of you have been small-minded jackasses and I'm super cheesed off by it all. So, like... I figure, I need a little more control here, so I decide to do a little something. That little something ended up opening a whole insane can of worms- now I'm stuck battling this enturbulatedOccupation person's paranoid nightmare server architecture. Here's the log.
00:49 spacetimeCounselor yeah cause nobody'd ever jump through hoops to set up cross-session code transmutancy dampeners 00:49 spacetimeCounselor for certain indiscretions 00:49 tenaciousTheseus PMs snaplockSunblood (Thank you) 00:49 unpatchedPirate and 5o ha5 tormer! 00:49 unpatchedPirate (he i5 my be5t friend) 00:49 spacetimeCounselor which were being publicly discussed like ten minutes ago 00:49 unpatchedPirate and i wanted to 5ee if anyone had more. 00:49 spacetimeCounselor i'm just pullin' shit outta my ass 00:50 tenaciousTheseus It was publicly discussed because a certain someone could not keep his mouth shut 00:51 unpatchedPirate 5ooooo..... 00:51 unpatchedPirate doe5 anyone? 00:52 unpatchedPirate have anymore book5? 00:52 tenaciousTheseus I don't have any, but someone else might 00:53 tenaciousTheseus There's some romance in the royal library, i think 00:53 spacetimeCounselor most of my good books have been labeled memetic hazards by people with really skewed priorities 00:53 tenaciousTheseus I ran into some 00:53 snaplockSunblood I oughta see about doing another one of these quests. 00:53 snaplockSunblood Get some favors owed to me 00:53 tenaciousTheseus Always good 00:54 snaplockSunblood Bye, you crazy bastards. 00:54 tenaciousTheseus Later 00:54 tenaciousTheseus Have fun! 00:54 tenaciousTheseus Heh 00:54 snaplockSunblood I will 00:54 snaplockSunblood has left the memo 00:54 tenaciousTheseus Ahahaha 00:54 stanzicApparati ... 00:54 spacetimeCounselor yep 00:55 tenaciousTheseus And now I must go as well 00:55 tenaciousTheseus Gotta grab what dreamless sleep I can 00:55 tenaciousTheseus Before entering 00:55 spacetimeCounselor night, dude 00:56 stanzicApparati MOrning, tEnthe. 00:56 spacetimeCounselor humans aint nocturnal s'far as i know but maybe TT's just weird 00:56 tenaciousTheseus I am 00:56 tenaciousTheseus But I am not nocturnal 00:57 *** tenaciousTheseus left #ultimatereward 00:57 *** snaplockSunblood quit (Quit: www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 00:57 spacetimeCounselor and then there were... like, four and also a whole bunch of idlers 01:07 stanzicApparati is sending folder "Books, Books, and More Books" to unpatchedPirate! 01:07 stanzicApparati Yep. 01:07 unpatchedPirate downloaded the folder! 01:08 spacetimeCounselor private filesharing huh 01:08 spacetimeCounselor hm 01:08 spacetimeCounselor that shouldn't happen again i don't think 01:08 stanzicApparati It can be done, yeah. 01:09 spacetimeCounselor is uploading trawl seed "" to memo! 01:09 stanzicApparati What do you mean "shouldn't happen again"? 01:09 stanzicApparati And what did you just try to upload? 01:09 stanzicApparati It's not even showing a name, for me. 01:09 spacetimeCounselor verifies \\.trawl(content)! 01:09 unpatchedPirate .::? 01:09 spacetimeCounselor nothing for you to worry about 01:09 spacetimeCounselor gehehehehe 01:09 stanzicApparati Uh-huh. 01:09 unpatchedPirate >.::? 01:10 stanzicApparati ventricularPipefitter 01:10 stanzicApparati If you aren't busy with something, you may wanna come take a look at whatever spacou is doing. 01:10 unpatchedPirate i don't really tru5t thi5 guy 5uddenly. 01:10 spacetimeCounselor aw, gonna rat out the bug? 01:10 spacetimeCounselor fine, be that way 01:10 stanzicApparati That's a good feeling, unppir, go with it. 01:11 stanzicApparati And dude, the fora's got /enough/ problems as-is without you sticking gog-knows-what gog-knows-where. 01:11 unpatchedPirate .::\ 01:11 spacetimeCounselor if you don't know enough computers to figure out what i just did, then it's really none of your business 01:12 unpatchedPirate uh... 01:12 stanzicApparati Maybe not. 01:12 stanzicApparati But gosh! I bet it's the admins' business. : D 01:12 unpatchedPirate i don't know anything about computer5 but i really don't like how you're acting. 01:12 unpatchedPirate it'5 creepy and underhanded! 01:12 stanzicApparati Let's see what /they/ say about you sticking your bits gog-knows-where. 01:12 spacetimeCounselor yeah we'll see if those poindexters can root out Arnold 01:12 stanzicApparati Ehehehe. 01:13 stanzicApparati Oooh, you have not yet seen the coding skillz of Pipes and intinf. 01:13 ventricularPipefitter has entered the memo. 01:13 stanzicApparati Hey, Pipes. 01:13 ventricularPipefitter I'm on bereavement leave. Is this important? 01:13 stanzicApparati Spacou stuck a thing in the memo. 01:14 spacetimeCounselor maybe, but they'd need to be pretty damn good with turing loops to- oh hello 01:14 stanzicApparati Idk what it does. 01:14 spacetimeCounselor don't listen to her it's nothing 01:14 unpatchedPirate spacetimeCounselor is uploading trawl seed "" to memo! 01:14 unpatchedPirate i don't like it even though i don't know what it i5. 01:14 spacetimeCounselor see 01:14 spacetimeCounselor nothing 01:14 stanzicApparati But he's acting shifty about it, so I figured one of the admins should know. 01:14 spacetimeCounselor you think i'm acting shifty about everything 01:15 unpatchedPirate and then he wa5 like, 01:15 unpatchedPirate spacetimeCounselor verifies \\.trawl(content)! 01:15 stanzicApparati This is because you're kinda shifty in general. 01:15 spacetimeCounselor OH SHIT MY FINGER'S ALL STUCK ON THE SHIFT KEY 01:15 unpatchedPirate and then he went spacetimeCounselor aw, gonna rat out the bug? 01:15 unpatchedPirate and spacetimeCounselor if you don't know enough computers to figure out what i just did, then it's really none of your business 01:15 spacetimeCounselor pipes runs the memo, he can read the log 01:15 unpatchedPirate and i just really don't like it .::c 01:15 unpatchedPirate oh 01:15 unpatchedPirate i didn't know that! 01:16 stanzicApparati Still a good idea to tell him, unppir. : ) 01:16 unpatchedPirate .::3 01:16 spacetimeCounselor w/e, like you jokers even know what a nested turing vehicle does 01:17 unpatchedPirate a 01:17 unpatchedPirate what????? 01:17 spacetimeCounselor incidentally thanks for upholding timeline standards, pipes 01:18 unpatchedPirate >.::T are you u5ing big word5 ju5t to make your5elf look 5mart????? 01:18 spacetimeCounselor yes and no 01:18 spacetimeCounselor like i said 01:19 spacetimeCounselor if you don't know enough computers to figure out what i just blah blah blah 01:19 stanzicApparati Yeah. 01:19 stanzicApparati This is why I figured an Admin ought to be pinged. 01:19 unpatchedPirate i already 5aid i don't know anything about computer5!!!!! >.::C 01:20 --- shadowMafia is away (in a manger, no crypt for a bed) 01:20 unpatchedPirate ugh, you're a jerk. 01:21 spacetimeCounselor yeah because the higher-ups totally studied conceptual temporal programming concepts in their spare time for months 01:21 stanzicApparati He is, yes. 01:21 spacetimeCounselor totally 01:21 stanzicApparati And dude? 01:21 stanzicApparati I'm betting Pipes has, in fact, studied that thing. 01:21 unpatchedPirate jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 01:21 stanzicApparati He knows /everything/, dude. 01:22 spacetimeCounselor he doesn't know Arnold 01:24 unpatchedPirate who care5 what he know5! 01:24 unpatchedPirate i hope he kick5 you in the 5hin5 and tell5 you you're an a55hole. 01:25 spacetimeCounselor cool 01:25 spacetimeCounselor man i am alienating a lot of people today 01:25 spacetimeCounselor i feel like i've accomplished something 01:26 unpatchedPirate >.::[ 01:26 unpatchedPirate maybe i'll kick you in the 5hin5 and call you an a55hole! 01:26 unpatchedPirate argh! 01:26 unpatchedPirate has thrown her computer into the wall 01:26 stanzicApparati Spacou, normally, I'd call you an unabashed blackflirt. 01:26 stanzicApparati But you don't get quadrants. 01:26 stanzicApparati So I don't even know /what/ the hell is wrong with you. 01:27 stanzicApparati Asides from "raging idiocy". 01:27 spacetimeCounselor s'funny actually 01:27 spacetimeCounselor on earth, there's this thing called "trolling" 01:27 stanzicApparati And again with the racism. 01:27 spacetimeCounselor idk if alternia has "humaning" but 01:28 spacetimeCounselor it's doing shit to get a rise out of people 01:28 stanzicApparati No, we just call it "being an asshole" on Alternia. 01:28 unpatchedPirate has joined the memo 01:28 spacetimeCounselor again? 01:30 unpatchedPirate bluhhhhh!!!!! 01:31 ventricularPipefitter Hm. Well now. 01:31 ventricularPipefitter has opened the admin panel 01:32 unpatchedPirate about time!!!!! 01:32 unpatchedPirate thi5 guy i5 a jerk and you 5hould ban him forever and al5o call him an jerk! 01:32 ventricularPipefitter Ahahaa you thought this would actually work. I'm going to laugh in your face on behalf of the dead girl and genius who designed this place. 01:32 *** ventricularPipefitter is now known as SMITH_OF_HEART 01:32 spacetimeCounselor heh 01:33 SMITH_OF_HEART has removed Upload/Download privileges from user: spacetimeCounselor. Duration: two weeks. 01:33 spacetimeCounselor is that it 01:34 SMITH_OF_HEART I don't have to do anything else. Your 'bug' was caught in the automatic filter, as it were. 01:34 spacetimeCounselor oh, dang 01:34 stanzicApparati Heh. 01:34 spacetimeCounselor i sure have egg on my face 01:34 spacetimeCounselor my plan totally failed 01:35 SMITH_OF_HEART You're just giving the less-computer-literates a hard time. 01:35 SMITH_OF_HEART You didn't expect this to work in the first place. 01:35 spacetimeCounselor haha yep that is what happened 01:35 spacetimeCounselor wait 01:35 spacetimeCounselor agh fuck 01:35 spacetimeCounselor what 01:35 spacetimeCounselor what did you do to arnold 01:35 spacetimeCounselor what's {Nullsec.} 01:35 SMITH_OF_HEART don't know, don't care.
had to switch to a different logger here
(1:37:02 AM) ***ventricularPipefitter has KICKED spacetimeCounselor! (Reason: smart-ass.) (1:37:10 AM) spacetimeCounselor entered the room. (1:37:14 AM) ***ventricularPipefitter has left the memo (1:37:16 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what the hell (1:37:22 AM) stanzicApparati: Ahahahaha (1:37:42 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what the hell, how can you put a paradox in front of a type iii turing loop (1:37:44 AM) spacetimeCounselor: that doesn't (1:37:48 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what the HELL (1:37:58 AM) stanzicApparati: Dude. (1:37:58 AM) spacetimeCounselor: arnold cmon you'll be ok (1:38:09 AM) stanzicApparati: Remember the bit where he said 'genius'? (1:38:11 AM) stanzicApparati: He /meant/ it. (1:38:26 AM) stanzicApparati: Stop trying to stick your bits where they don't belong. (1:38:26 AM) spacetimeCounselor: no no no (1:38:26 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this is (1:38:28 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this is good (1:38:30 AM) spacetimeCounselor: actually (1:38:33 AM) stanzicApparati: Mhm. (1:38:35 AM) spacetimeCounselor: hm (1:38:38 AM) spacetimeCounselor: uh (1:38:47 AM) unpatchedPirate: ugh, you 5hould have been really taken away. (1:38:58 AM) stanzicApparati: Because finding out that if you stick your bits in the meatgrinder, they get mangled - hey. Learning experience. (1:39:00 AM) unpatchedPirate: i'm gonna go read my book5 now. >.::[ (1:39:06 AM) ***unpatchedPirate left the memo (1:39:23 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor voids \\.link; \\.observer; \\.id (1:39:32 AM) stanzicApparati: Dude. (1:39:33 AM) spacetimeCounselor: hee hee hee (1:39:39 AM) stanzicApparati: You can't even upload things right now. (1:39:44 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i'm not uploading anything (1:39:50 AM) stanzicApparati: No, you're just being an idiot. (1:39:53 AM) stanzicApparati: As usual. (1:39:55 AM) spacetimeCounselor: don't you worry about nothin' (1:40:04 AM) stanzicApparati: Y'know what? (1:40:09 AM) stanzicApparati: Honestly not worried now. (1:40:31 AM) stanzicApparati: Ain't nothing you can toss at the servers that it won't throw back at you. (1:40:46 AM) spacetimeCounselor: yeah sure it (1:41:00 AM) spacetimeCounselor: uh (1:41:02 AM) spacetimeCounselor: hang on (1:41:08 AM) stanzicApparati: Ehehehe (1:41:23 AM) stanzicApparati: I should get some popcorn while I watch this. (1:43:52 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer melted! (1:44:03 AM) spacetimeCounselor entered the room. (1:44:06 AM) spacetimeCounselor: FUCK (1:44:10 AM) spacetimeCounselor: WHAT (1:44:10 AM) stanzicApparati: Bwahahahaha (1:44:31 AM) spacetimeCounselor: aaaaaa cmon (1:44:45 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor voids \\.sysMaintain (1:46:09 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor does not have uploading priveleges! (1:46:13 AM) spacetimeCounselor: fucking (1:46:17 AM) stanzicApparati: Ehehehe. (1:46:26 AM) stanzicApparati: This is /hilarious/. (1:46:53 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor commits voidstructure [ARNOLD].// (1:47:02 AM) ventricularPipefitter left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (1:47:37 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor voids \\.metaID; \\.bracket; \\.trawl(content) (1:47:56 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor enables .\\id (1:49:12 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor violates voidstructure [BIGBANG].// (1:49:16 AM) spacetimeCounselor: god damn it (1:49:19 AM) stanzicApparati: pffff (1:49:21 AM) stanzicApparati: Dude. (1:49:25 AM) stanzicApparati: Why are you still trying? (1:49:33 AM) stanzicApparati: I mean, it's hilarious from /my/ end - but. (1:49:36 AM) stanzicApparati: Still. (1:49:37 AM) spacetimeCounselor: how do you even violate [BIGBANG] with an elementary loop (1:49:46 AM) stanzicApparati: "you suck" (1:49:48 AM) stanzicApparati: this is how (1:50:17 AM) spacetimeCounselor: no, the server software reports voidstructure violations (1:50:21 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this is fucking weird (1:50:27 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what the hell kind of server software is this (1:50:34 AM) stanzicApparati: The awesome kind. (1:50:54 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor enables Standards Check () (1:50:59 AM) stanzicApparati: You think you can just toss something out into the Ring and expect it to work normally? (1:51:03 AM) spacetimeCounselor: holy shit it's part of the filter (1:51:16 AM) spacetimeCounselor: also that's not how it works so stfu (1:51:37 AM) stanzicApparati: Dude, that is absolutely how it works. (1:51:47 AM) stanzicApparati: The server is out /in/ /the/ /Ring/. (1:51:49 AM) stanzicApparati: Somewhere. (1:52:05 AM) stanzicApparati: Or maybe it's in a null session, idk. (1:52:06 AM) spacetimeCounselor: stop being ignorant and let me prod this thing (1:52:13 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor prods {Nullsec.} (1:52:20 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer melted! (1:52:26 AM) spacetimeCounselor entered the room. (1:52:28 AM) stanzicApparati: Bwahahaha (1:52:29 AM) stanzicApparati: Sure. (1:52:33 AM) stanzicApparati: Go ahead and poke it. (1:52:39 AM) stanzicApparati: It's /hilarious/. (1:52:53 AM) spacetimeCounselor: shut up i am getting valuable data here (1:53:03 AM) stanzicApparati: And I'm getting valuable lols. (1:54:11 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor commits voidstructure [NONE].// (1:54:28 AM) spacetimeCounselor: dammit okay why won't it stop sending commands to the public console (1:54:35 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this isn't even CONNECTED to the security (1:55:09 AM) spacetimeCounselor: oh hang on a second (1:55:24 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor voids \\.all() (1:55:35 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor enables \\.all() (1:56:23 AM) stanzicApparati: ... (1:56:29 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor commits voidstructure [CUSTOM].//43ff00.(<3craft) (1:56:39 AM) spacetimeCounselor: hahahaha okay um (1:56:40 AM) spacetimeCounselor: wait (1:56:46 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this doesn't make any sense (1:57:16 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i mean like, i understand what i'm seeing, but the server is literally reporting that is [does not make any sense] (1:57:21 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i (1:57:22 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what (1:57:44 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this has to be a mask or something (1:58:01 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what's an enturbulatedOccupation anyway (1:58:15 AM) stanzicApparati: enturbulatedOccupation was one of the Founders, dude. (1:58:16 AM) spacetimeCounselor: why does it show up in all the null voidstructures (1:58:23 AM) spacetimeCounselor: wait that's someone's name? (1:58:30 AM) stanzicApparati: Was. (1:58:41 AM) spacetimeCounselor: oh. (1:58:45 AM) spacetimeCounselor: dang, uh (1:59:07 AM) spacetimeCounselor: well all of this seems really awkward suddenly (1:59:16 AM) stanzicApparati: Gee, ya /think/? (2:00:44 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer didn't melt! (2:00:50 AM) spacetimeCounselor: haha yes wait what (2:00:55 AM) spacetimeCounselor: why would it /report that/ (2:01:03 AM) stanzicApparati: Possibly because it should've? (2:01:25 AM) stanzicApparati: That happens sometimes, if it should've exploded or gotten destroyed, but didn't. (2:04:19 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer melted! (2:04:25 AM) spacetimeCounselor: what the hell, no it didn't (2:04:31 AM) stanzicApparati: Are you sure? (2:04:36 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor connected to memo (2:04:40 AM) spacetimeCounselor: apparently not (2:04:47 AM) stanzicApparati: Hee. (2:04:49 AM) stanzicApparati: Anyways, dude (2:04:57 AM) stanzicApparati: quit messing with the dead woman's code (2:05:21 AM) spacetimeCounselor: oh make it more awkward why don't you (2:05:26 AM) stanzicApparati: it's tacky as hell, and you're messing with something that's probably the last thing the other Founders have of her. (2:05:37 AM) spacetimeCounselor: it doesnt matter anyway, there's like a 75% chance i'm just being smokescreened (2:05:43 AM) stanzicApparati: Hey, if you're still messing with it, it is clearly not awkward /enough/. (2:05:49 AM) spacetimeCounselor: but unless they're REALLY diabolical some of the strucutral stuff should be the same (2:05:56 AM) stanzicApparati: Bwahahaha. (2:06:00 AM) stanzicApparati: So (2:06:13 AM) stanzicApparati: how many times does your computer have to melt, for you to quit messing with this? (2:06:21 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i have a lot of computers (2:06:23 AM) spacetimeCounselor: they are cheap as shit (2:06:24 AM) stanzicApparati: Ballpark it, if you have to. (2:06:50 AM) spacetimeCounselor: zero's using loads of grist for his little project but there's plenty of shale left over (2:07:08 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i've got enough for like i dunno, a couple hundred more machines (2:07:33 AM) stanzicApparati: So you'll quit after it melts two hundred times? (2:07:44 AM) stanzicApparati: Yeah, that sounds about stupid-stubborn enough to be you. (2:07:45 AM) spacetimeCounselor: well no i'll just go find more quartz grist (2:08:05 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i'm not kidding about them being cheap as shit (2:08:11 AM) spacetimeCounselor: grist costs appear to vary by recipe (2:08:45 AM) spacetimeCounselor: once you have the code you can mix and match really cheapo household shit that && or || to the same result (2:09:32 AM) spacetimeCounselor: anyway it's clear that whoever this person was took pride in their work (2:09:38 AM) spacetimeCounselor: it'd practically be an insult to just give up now (2:11:09 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer turned feral! (2:11:27 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer was bisected! (2:11:32 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor connected to memo (2:11:33 AM) stanzicApparati: wait /what/ (2:11:34 AM) spacetimeCounselor: okay this is getting old (2:11:43 AM) stanzicApparati: Did your computer just try to /eat/ you? (2:12:13 AM) spacetimeCounselor: long story short (2:12:14 AM) spacetimeCounselor: yes (2:12:19 AM) spacetimeCounselor: she is /good/ (2:12:23 AM) stanzicApparati: Bwahahahaha (2:12:31 AM) stanzicApparati: oh god, I wish I could've met her (2:12:40 AM) spacetimeCounselor: me too (2:12:44 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this is like (2:13:03 AM) spacetimeCounselor: this is gonna be some kind of rivalry (2:13:11 AM) spacetimeCounselor: and of course she's DEAD which makes it sting all the more (2:13:32 AM) stanzicApparati: Welcome to being spadebroken, dude. (2:13:41 AM) spacetimeCounselor: let's dance, whoever-you-were (2:14:01 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor enables voidstructure multiplicity (2:14:16 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor voids voidstructure [BIGBANG].// (2:14:27 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer. (2:14:31 AM) spacetimeCounselor: NOPE (2:14:33 AM) spacetimeCounselor: HAHAHAHA (2:15:30 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer's spacetimeCounselor computered! (2:15:32 AM) spacetimeCounselor: ... (2:15:35 AM) spacetimeCounselor: now she's just being silly (2:15:36 AM) stanzicApparati: ahahaha (2:15:39 AM) spacetimeCounselor: when do these dumb traps end (2:15:44 AM) spacetimeCounselor: let me into the voidcore dammit (2:16:16 AM) stanzicApparati: No voidcore for you! (2:16:22 AM) stanzicApparati: Also no ice cream. (2:16:26 AM) stanzicApparati: Or apparently computers. (2:18:04 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's voiding privileges have been disabled! (2:18:12 AM) spacetimeCounselor: welp (2:18:19 AM) spacetimeCounselor: at least the top level messages should be dead (2:18:25 AM) spacetimeCounselor: okay i'm done with this (2:18:35 AM) spacetimeCounselor: there's only so much i can do via the irc feed (2:19:10 AM) spacetimeCounselor: prepare to undergo 1337 H4XX0RING, eo (2:19:15 AM) spacetimeCounselor: i'm outta here (2:19:31 AM) spacetimeCounselor: uh (2:19:32 AM) spacetimeCounselor: whoops (2:19:36 AM) stanzicApparati: You're totally gonna get owned by a dead woman. (2:19:42 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor 's computer! (2:19:51 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor exploded! (2:20:01 AM) ***spacetimeCounselor connected to memo (2:20:06 AM) spacetimeCounselor: fyi that didn't actually happen (2:20:12 AM) spacetimeCounselor left the room.
So yeah imma make some more computers and crack this wide open. Miss Myra, you are going down. Only, more down, y'know, because you're already dead.
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Aug 20, 2012 11:37:11 GMT -5
Dude, what the fuck. If you break the chat, the last bastion of help for players, I will hunt you down, rip you to shreds, and feed your soul to the Angels. Stop poking where you shouldn't
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 20, 2012 12:38:38 GMT -5
I'm not going to break it, jeez. I'm just doing some stuff to figure out how it works and get a little more control over it. Kind of like how I'm doing with this entire damn game, except that the IRC isn't evil. Just, y'know, choked with ninnies agonizing over their relationship drama.
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Post by stanzicApparati on Aug 20, 2012 14:43:39 GMT -5
I'm not going to break it, jeez. I'm just doing some stuff to figure out how it works and get a little more control over it. Why the hell do you want control over the IRC? It's not yours. Jeeze, even wrigglers know better than to try grabbing things that aren't theirs.
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Post by genesisArtificer on Aug 23, 2012 6:18:27 GMT -5
final warning. Hack the chat and I will a) ban you from the entire boards and b) use Light to support every notion against you connecting to ANY Replayer network in existence. I am sure that Cogs will hammer it home with [Purple Prose], once he starts responding to my messages.
If you want to get your IRC privileges back, swear a Law Oath that you won't try to hack it or mess with the chat in any other way and I will unban you. then, PM me about your readiness to join the community back as its prodigal and repentant son.
PS: Also, I am aware of romantic drama. Most of people here are teenagers and young adults. I would be surprised if there were NO romantic drama.
EDIT: Ok, navigating the Ring for Assholes: If you really think that only Time and Space would be enough, you are a bigger moron than it is humanly possible. People afflicted with DERP have now a divine right and privilege to look down at you. You would need at least Time, Space, and Light OR Void/Mist. Mind is extremely helpful to mitigate eventual sanity damage, and so is Heart or (!) Breath. You can interact with Dreamers and the Dead in constructive matter, but they cannot exist in corporeal form outside the Ring. if you bring them to defined reality (that being a Sburb Session or the Earth/Trollplanet/Turdodor Fuckball), they will exist, but you won't be able to interact by any means (unless you are a fucking medium but c'mon are they even real?) So, no playing Jeshua for you :T
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 23, 2012 12:54:28 GMT -5
hahahaha stfu stanz
and genart i won't drop any bugs or anything nasty in there, okay, okay, not gonna do anything that'll interfere with its operation or violate anyone's privacy- but holy shit dude have you SEEN this thing? y'can't expect me to just FORGET the several impossible things it appears to do as a matter of normal operation, and not do everything possible to find out how it works. this is a goddamn matter of pride, aight; me and myra's ghost in the machine have unfinished business. if you want to send me some documentation or instantiate a blank copy of the software for me to mess around with safely that'd be cool, but i'm not just dropping this.
wrt ring stuff, yeah, obviously it's not just going to be a matter of stacking aspects (although, if I were a time player i could potentially tier into every aspect in a session by sending doomed timeclones to fill the beds.) s'a pretty complicated and dangerous endeavor which will require a lot of prep. also are you saying like, if you take people out of the bubbles they become literal ghosts? seriously all of this is so freaky and dangerous there's no way people have exhausted the low-hanging fruit yet.
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Anyway, since you can see I recently got banned from the IRC due to moronic circumstances and mob mentality, I've been pretty busy. I've been retrieving powerful artifacts for Zero (well, everyone has- I'm just the best at it) because he's spending his time alternatively questing with Aloice (tiered) and spending an inordinate amount of time with his alchemiter. A good majority of our grist gets torrented to Zero's operation- he's keeping the specifics under wraps, as a tacit acknowledgement of his roleplay, but it's transparently obvious that he's building a giant robot, I mean COME ON. If he weren't building a giant robot, he would be telling us that he was, because I'd immediately believe him and the roleplay problem would be solved. That he's making any attempt at all to conceal it is basically confirmation, unless he's really clever but I don't think he cares enough about Sand to bother. It might hurt his roleplay that I know that's what he's doing, but that's the price he pays for being Zero, because not taking this opportunity to build himself a personal mecha is antithetical to his very nature.
Butterfly's super helpful- her pet wraith has been slaying Denizens for us, which has been great for Obs and Aloice and Zero but mine went into hiding or something, so not that simple there. Sfreq's been doing her own thing, I don't even know what her deal is but she's probably getting a lot of mileage out of [Hope Rides Alone]. Anyway, according to Butterfly the only part that really matters is breeding the frog and killing the King, and she's already got the frog ready to go. Kind of disturbing how she did it, actually- she cast this sort of mass-teleport skill on all the frogs on her land, and then... well, first she generated all their slime, because apparently they were all fated to be killed rather than appearified- and then she crushed them all under a slab of building material. Reeeeeally gross. All of this would probably be unhealthy in an ordinary session, getting the Reckoning timer all angry- but since we're all fated to survive, the dangers of acceleration are mitigated.
Speaking of the Reckoning- the trigger, being the destruction of Derse by the battle between DM and Jack, is kind of spectacularly dangerous. Aloice and Zero have been heading up an evacuation plan- Prospitian refugees have been flooding to Derse since DM failed to quell some riots and there was kind of a disaster (the white kingdom doesn't take as well to usurpation as derse, it seems). Derse has a much larger transportation fleet, though- having to carry its soldiers to and from the Battlefield requires more capable infrastructure. Diamonds, as the crew's taken to calling the Dignitary, is in cahooooots with us. Oh I forgot to mention, I totally pulled off the fake ring thing. Intellibeam Laserstation on the ring's code, makes an off-color duplicate that doesn't work and screws with Jack's AI. So that was straightforward. Anyway the cahoots involves preparing Derse's entire fleet to evacuate the entire moon, plus white-shelled refugees. Mass exile appears to be the plan- with Jack stuck on the throne, DD and Zero have been able to orchestrate this huge logistical nightmare to get everyone to safety. Carapace AI seems to be... considerably more advanced than consort AI, as is fitting for constructs designed to rebuild civilization- so we're treating them as sapient for the time being. Diamonds is pretty psyched about uniting the kingdoms under his own banner, and Miss Taylor's mellowed him out some.
Anyway, apparently when Aloice tiered she showed up on the Battlefield, I guess? And she met the White King, who's like... this fucking gigantic stone hive fortress thing now. Is it just that wraiths tend toward more humanoid manifestations, or is that a consequence of the ring vs the scepter? Zero has once again provided an artist's rendition here, which is getting me kind of scared because y'know that's what the Black King looks like too. This guy... is not going to be easy to take down. I'm gonna try to figure something out, but it's gonna be tough- we're on another time limit, since not only do Obs and I either have to take a break from the fight or wait to start until after we kill Jack, but we've got less than an hour after killing Jack to finish the fight and figure out what's going on with Sfreq and stuff.
So yeah, wrapping things up. If anyone's aware of some loose ends I've forgotten, let me know now so I don't accidentally doom everyone with a paradox.
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Post by stanzicApparati on Aug 23, 2012 15:38:10 GMT -5
Butterfly's super helpful- her pet wraith has been slaying Denizens for us, which has been great for Obs and Aloice and Zero but mine went into hiding or something, so not that simple there. Sfreq's been doing her own thing, I don't even know what her deal is but she's probably getting a lot of mileage out of [Hope Rides Alone]. Anyway, according to Butterfly the only part that really matters is breeding the frog and killing the King, and she's already got the frog ready to go. Kind of disturbing how she did it, actually- she cast this sort of mass-teleport skill on all the frogs on her land, and then... well, first she generated all their slime, because apparently they were all fated to be killed rather than appearified- and then she crushed them all under a slab of building material. Reeeeeally gross. All of this would probably be unhealthy in an ordinary session, getting the Reckoning timer all angry- but since we're all fated to survive, the dangers of acceleration are mitigated. She did what to the froggies?! D: Why would she even - the froggies are adorable, why would she do that? D:Anyway, apparently when Aloice tiered she showed up on the Battlefield, I guess? And she met the White King, who's like... this fucking gigantic stone hive fortress thing now. Is it just that wraiths tend toward more humanoid manifestations, or is that a consequence of the ring vs the scepter? Zero has once again provided an artist's rendition here, which is getting me kind of scared because y'know that's what the Black King looks like too. This guy... is not going to be easy to take down. I'm gonna try to figure something out, but it's gonna be tough- we're on another time limit, since not only do Obs and I either have to take a break from the fight or wait to start until after we kill Jack, but we've got less than an hour after killing Jack to finish the fight and figure out what's going on with Sfreq and stuff.
So yeah, wrapping things up. If anyone's aware of some loose ends I've forgotten, let me know now so I don't accidentally doom everyone with a paradox. Don't forget that whatever you do to take Jack down, it has the appearance of some nasty fear effect. You should have a good enough handle on the Law to use Promises to keep people from dying during the battle, plus making it a lot easier to do the fight.
The Kings' appearance is definitely a matter of rings vs sceptres. It might be a means of limiting the Kings' mobility, I dunno - I mean, they tied the Queens to their thrones (which kinda...doesn't work, since the throne is pretty damned easy to break, plus it doesn't usually carry over to Ringwraiths). But I don't really have enough to get a good working theory.
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Post by spacetimeCounselor on Aug 24, 2012 22:58:04 GMT -5
uh just gonna leave this here
[11:00] -- spacetimeCounselor [SC] began pestering bayesianMechanist [BM] at 23:00 -- [11:00] SC: hey okay [11:01] SC: so you know all this alchemy fuel we've been collecting [11:01] SC: here is what i know [11:01] SC: as a certainty [11:01] SC: you are building a giant mecha with it [11:01] BM: a certainty? from you? [11:01] BM: i thought you'd actually... you know [11:01] BM: read up on how probability actually works. [11:01] SC: i have never been more one hundred percent convinced of a thing in my life [11:02] SC: "zero is building a giant mecha" is a statement that defies probability theory [11:02] SC: it just has a truth value of 1 [11:02] BM: okay so... you are [11:02] BM: apparently [11:02] BM: for some reason [11:02] BM: convinced that i am building what can only be called the most impractical weapon of war ever conceived by man [11:02] SC: wait what [11:02] BM: more ridiculous than that one russian nuclear mortar whose area of effect exceeded its maximum range. [11:02] SC: did you actually just say that [11:02] BM: yes, that was a thing. [11:03] BM: it was built... i think around WWII-cold war? [11:03] BM: anyways who cares. [11:03] SC: dude this game is clearly messing with your mind hardcore because you can't possibly have said that [11:03] BM: said what? [11:03] SC: that mechas are impractical and awful [11:03] BM: well... they are. [11:03] SC: i can't believe what i'm hearing [11:03] SC: explain [11:03] BM: i know that you know that i like mechas, but that is strictly from the mindset of an artist! [11:04] BM: the mecha represents an idealization of the martial aspect of humanity. [11:04] BM: it's a big guy decorated in spiffy polygon armor to the customization of the user. [11:04] BM: it's more a representation of how humans still value valor in combat. [11:04] BM: mechas are bigass knights fighting each other on a near-divine scale. [11:05] BM: in real life, mechas don't work, because they can't support their own weight. [11:05] BM: and because caterpillar treads generally have the same effective all-terrain ability as bipedal creatures these days. [11:05] BM: how would i even make a mecha, anyways? [11:05] BM: what could i do with one that i couldn't do with the same amount of grist sunken into rocketboots and a nice suit of armor? [11:05] SC: okay while i appreciate the willpower necessary to say all this without killing yourself in shame [11:05] SC: there are more factors involved [11:05] SC: for example [11:05] SC: what the fuck is an albatross part [11:06] BM: i would surmise it is part of an albatross. [11:06] BM: some disgusting anatomical feature, possibly preserved in formaldehyde. [11:06] SC: no i mean what's this giant roboclaw you left outside your spire house [11:06] SC: that the alchemiter identifies as an algawhatshit part [11:06] SC: which okay yes i totally stole [11:07] BM: ...oh, so that's where that went. [11:07] BM: huh. [11:07] SC: but your garage was locked what else was i supposed to do [11:07] BM: are you sure it's a claw? [11:07] SC: it looks exactly like a claw [11:07] BM: i'd... rather not explain its usage. [11:07] BM: i'm a sand player, explaining things is not a good idea. [11:07] BM: especially given we're approaching the final battle rather quickly. [11:07] SC: sounds like you are DODGING THE QUESTION DUDE [11:07] BM: congratulations [11:07] BM: you figured out what sand players do [11:07] BM: good job on ya [11:08] BM: but seriously, you are pinning your entire hypothesis on one piece of equipment whose true utility you don't even know? [11:08] SC: in my experience sand players tear things apart with their minds with magic [11:08] SC: and well [11:08] SC: i mean what else could this be [11:08] SC: it's a friggin claw [11:08] BM: yes, claws definitely correlate with mental magic. [11:08] BM: that is totally exactly what mechas are for, enabling one to use mental magic to execute sburb powers. [11:08] SC: no i mean like i totes stole your sandy powers and i haven't had problems with being pointlessly cagey [11:08] SC: i just get to explode things with my mind [11:08] SC: when it works anyway [11:09] BM: lucky you. [11:09] SC: your friggin whisperings are terrible btw [11:09] BM: i don't think discussing whisperings is really... a good idea for me [11:09] SC: yeah yeah whatever [11:09] BM: they're more averse to discussion than the usual whisperings and all [11:09] BM: but. [11:09] SC: friggin Break won't give me a break but enough about that [11:09] SC: say this isn't a mecha [11:09] SC: what are you even building it for [11:10] BM: again- telling you what i'm doing sort of defeats the point, doesn't it? [11:10] BM: what would i do with a mecha? [11:10] SC: i don't know! [11:10] SC: fight shit and stuff [11:10] BM: you know what actually [11:10] BM: i think you're projecting [11:11] BM: i think you're projecting your ideas of importance on me. [11:11] BM: to YOU, what is important is 'fight shit and stuff'. [11:11] BM: which is what you've been doing! [11:11] BM: you've been charging in like an idiot and fighting shit. [11:11] SC: i have been doing a lot of fighting shit and stuff yes [11:11] SC: in my experience that gets things done [11:11] BM: do you really want to know what my mechanical parts are for? [11:12] SC: that is the line of questioning yeah; feel free to couch it in riddles if it helps you roleplay [11:12] BM: i'm trying to save everyone. [11:12] SC: uh [11:12] BM: derse doesn't have enough ships. [11:12] SC: yeah i mean that's what we're- oh is this with the evac project [11:12] BM: do you seriously think that one dream moon can hold all the carapaces? [11:12] BM: let me tell you, skaia alone fields the equivalent of an entire dream-moon full of carapaces [11:13] BM: you're not dealing with one moon, you're dealing with two moons and two armies on skaia [11:13] BM: this is a huge logistics problem [11:13] BM: you have no idea how difficult this is [11:13] BM: i can't just captchalogue a whole damn ship and churn those out by the dozen [11:13] BM: so i am building a ship by hand [11:13] SC: so, your rescue machine for saving all the chess people [11:13] SC: at some point required a giant-ass roboclaw [11:13] BM: IT IS NOT A CLAW! [11:13] BM: IT IS A STABILIZING SUPPORT FOR THE CENTRAL REACTORS [11:14] BM: MY SHIP ISNT POWERED BY SKAIAN BULLSHITTERY, IT IS POWERED BY REAL SCIENCE AND LOGIC [11:14] SC: I CAN USE CAPS LOCK TOO [11:14] BM: gaaaaah just [11:14] SC: also i don't know what that meant but okay [11:14] BM: shut up. [11:14] SC: people keep telling me to do that [11:14] SC: i don't know why [11:14] BM: with good reason! [11:14] BM: seriously, you've been doing some pretty idiotic things this entire session. [11:14] BM: i know i'm supposed to save the 'chewing you out speech' for later [11:14] SC: i can't be held accountable for past me's choices yo [11:14] SC: oh and [11:14] SC: yeah [11:15] SC: can i just say that i'm really really sorry again [11:15] BM: you know, i'd much rather you figured out how skaia seems to propagate information insofar as time loops are concerned [11:15] BM: that won't CHANGE how the past went down, but it WILL give us information on how to prevent these meaningless tragic timeloops in the future. [11:15] BM: much better usage of your time than apologizing! [11:15] BM: heroic responsibility and all. [11:16] SC: well yeah that's one of those big high-level goals that the ninnies in irc get on my case about [11:16] SC: i'll figure it out at some point [11:17] SC: i've got a theory involving like, origin tangents that function the same as doomed timelines, producing information necessary for a loop despite their instability [11:17] SC: but [11:17] SC: eh [11:17] SC: i have no idea, that's just one hypothesis [11:17] SC: anyway [11:17] BM: ...sigh. [11:17] SC: the point at hand is [11:17] SC: you are building a big ship, then [11:18] BM: possibly multiple, once i finish the whole thing and start replicating it piecemeal. [11:18] SC: hm [11:18] SC: and [11:18] BM: i'd be glad to hand you the... 70% or so of the blueprints i have right now [11:18] BM: but i don't think you'd have enough grist to replicate it to any usage [11:18] SC: *narrows eyes* [11:18] SC: why should i trust you?!? [11:18] SC: mister sandman [11:18] BM: shrug [11:18] BM: i don't know if you're in the right position to ask for reasons why you should trust others. [11:18] SC: um. [11:19] BM: other way around, maybe. [11:19] BM: you've done a very good job of violating my trust and manipulating me into indirectly facilitating the death of my girlfriend! [11:19] BM: honestly, nobody expects the trickster lying devious sand player to get tricked, but there you go. [11:19] BM: so if you want, we'll shut up about trust and go back to working as a united team the way we're supposed to in sburb. [11:19] BM: or we can just fracture and lie to each other, which i'm okay with as it will raise my roleplay coefficient to monumental levels, allowing me to slap some sense into you! [11:19] BM: what do you think about sburb? [11:19] SC: er. [11:19] SC: wait, what do i think about sburb? [11:19] BM: yup! [11:19] BM: you've probably been thinking about it a bit at least [11:19] BM: tell me what your thoughts are on. what has this session taught you? [11:19] SC: like, besides the whole being an insane planetcidal freakshow game that kills civilizations in countless numbers and needs to be destroyed? [11:19] SC: i haven't learned a whole hell of a lot [11:20] SC: on account of i don't trust this game one bit [11:20] SC: if i give it the time of day soon it'll have its freaky mind control tendrils in my head [11:20] BM: and let me guess. [11:20] BM: you fancy yourself the mighty hero who would liberate reality from the evil tendrils of sburb. [11:20] BM: you are the important protagonist, its you. [11:21] SC: nobody else seems to give a shit [11:21] SC: so [11:21] SC: yeah??? [11:21] SC: seriously all these replayers are depressed and nihilistic as shit [11:21] BM: allow me, then, to put my concerns such. [11:21] BM: during this session, you have been directly responsible for the death of at least one person. [11:22] SC: they got better! [11:22] BM: i don't know if you plan on pulling any more secret sneaky deaths on me without telling me. [11:22] BM: maybe you plan on godtiering someone else without telling anybody later! [11:22] BM: to you, sburb is about you. [11:22] BM: you are the protagonist, the one anointed with the chosen power to fight and defeat evil. [11:23] BM: the rest of us are focusing on mere concerns not nearly as great as your heroic duty to save the universe! [11:23] BM: but when you shut up and multiply [11:23] BM: you've killed one person thus far. [11:23] SC: they [11:23] SC: they got better? [11:23] BM: i've saved every carapace which has made the transition from prospit to derse safely. [11:23] BM: yes, they got better. [11:23] BM: not due to your intervention. [11:24] BM: if i hadn't brought my sprite [11:24] BM: trying to save YOU [11:24] BM: she'd be dead right now and i wouldn't be sitting here talking to you. [11:24] BM: when push came to shove [11:24] BM: you decided that somebody's life [11:24] BM: the life of a unique human being [11:24] BM: someone that you KNEW! [11:24] BM: was worth less to you than power. [11:24] SC: i [11:24] BM: you wanted to break the game more than you wanted to save people. [11:24] SC: it's not [11:25] SC: i'm not like [11:25] SC: gah [11:25] BM: you're the one who's always going on about making sure we all know everything and working together and understanding! [11:25] BM: if you'd TOLD ME [11:25] BM: that all you wanted was to be allowed to tier [11:25] BM: that you had a plan [11:25] BM: which you thought would work [11:25] BM: i'd have let you do it! [11:25] BM: i do not care about the godtier, i wasn't fighting for you over tribal scraps of meat [11:25] BM: sure, it worked out [11:25] BM: but it could just as easily not have worked out. [11:26] BM: which is why i'm working so hard to save the carapaces. [11:26] SC: except there was a friggin time loop! what am i supposed to do about that! [11:26] SC: and [11:26] SC: but [11:26] SC: like if i'd told you then it might've [11:26] SC: well i guess it wouldn't have [11:26] SC: um [11:26] BM: i haven't gone out and grinded for echeladder levels in a while. [11:26] BM: my roleplay is shot from telling you all of this, anyway [11:26] BM: i don't grind much anymore, because i'm too busy working on the ship. [11:26] BM: the mecha is what YOU would make with all this grist! it's the ultimate self-indulgence, a hugeass metal robot sC here to save the day and be a hero! [11:26] SC: okay, fuck [11:26] SC: dude [11:26] SC: just [11:26] SC: build your chess piece intervention cruiser [11:27] BM: you know what, i'm going to do that. [11:27] BM: i am going to go back to working on the Abtragung. [11:27] SC: fuck [11:27] SC: okay you work on your albatross gungan [11:27] SC: fine, see you later [11:27] BM: later. [11:28] -- bayesianMechanist [BM] ceased pestering spacetimeCounselor [SC] at 23:28 --
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Post by genesisArtificer on Aug 26, 2012 6:29:18 GMT -5
So, common sense and respect of what others had built so you can communicate with the other players is now called mob mentality. I have to note it. Preferably in "MOST MORONIC STATEMENTS KNOWN TO REPLAYERKIND" just near "they are kinda cute with those tentacles and black ichor".
I really hope nobody I know will end in a session with you. Everything you could do wrong, you did.
I am not going to even comment on your treatment of Frogs.
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Post by tenaciousTheseus on Aug 26, 2012 11:37:41 GMT -5
Anyway, according to Butterfly the only part that really matters is breeding the frog and killing the King, and she's already got the frog ready to go. Kind of disturbing how she did it, actually- she cast this sort of mass-teleport skill on all the frogs on her land, and then... well, first she generated all their slime, because apparently they were all fated to be killed rather than appearified- and then she crushed them all under a slab of building material. Reeeeeally gross.
Welp. Guess I'm going to go kill a bitch. You do NOT do that to frogs. Period.
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